Naval Battle PBEM NorthAmerica or similar times

[MFCamillus]

It is a little out of character.

However the issue is that in PBEM you may never see what it is that killed you so you do not know what the opponent has. It is a stabilizing feature to make up for the fact that in PBEM you many times do not see fast units that attack you.

When playing the computer you can watch your opponents moves and the combat happen, in PBEM you cannot. It was something developed sometime back for tournament play that I personally find rather fair so that it makes up for the lack of vision to the combat in PBEM. Now if it only had a "view combat" feature it would be great and the notes would not be useful

[Paddy]

Originally posted by snoopy369

Paddy, it's a gameplay thing. Since Civ3 does not show you what happened during other people's turns in a PBEM, it is harmful to the game to not know about it. In RL, if you wish, you certainly see what happens during combat involving your units (well, most of the time anyways). Civ3 PBEM doesn't show you that, so we improvise by having these battle reports. Not only is it only fair to know what you were beaten by (since that's relevant to your strategy), but in PBEM when it's a day between turns usually it's hard to remember what units you had the day before ...

Battle reports are a standard in Apolyton PBEMs, so it's not just us. Talk to Rommel2d or Beta, I'm sure they could explain it further if you want more info on them.

OOC: kind of getting what you are saying - yet I am playing in a few PBEM's and this is that only one asked for itemised battle reports

end OCC

IC:

bah humbug

onto the Yank who is living in a concealed tank


edit: anyway thank you all for your patience with me as I am learning - and still have a long way to go

[ChrisiusMaximus]

And it is from my concealed tank that i send this next save to snoopy

Im not coming out either untill the shooting stops

[snoopy369]

sent on to MFC

[Paddy]

Originally posted by ChrisiusMaximus
And it is from my concealed tank that i send this next save to snoopy

Im not coming out either untill the shooting stops

indeed young leader of the old and wise nation

[MFCamillus]

Turn to Paddy

Originally posted by ChrisiusMaximus
Gentlemen can we not sit at the table and discuss terms for a lasting peace treaty ?

Surely what does britain hope to gain from destroying one of only three potential trading partners, there is much empty terrain in this world for our explorers and settlers to claim and make productive, do our peoples not deserve freedom and peace?

America stands neutrally by and hopes that our friends in England and Spain can find a way to resolve this dispute and bring forth a time of peace and prosperity for all.

Washington stands ready to welcome delegates from both your great sovereign nations to hold peace talks on neutral and safe! ground. We await with hope in our hearts both your responses.

The Sovereign peoples of Spain have desired peace for some time. At one time an offer was extended by the English and accepted by our Foreign Minister, the result of which was a return of the raiding (piratical?) English army when the next day dawned.

We hear the comments of rebellion amongst our people, yet we find the "rebels" escorted ashore by a Man o War with the cross of St George on its jack and all of them wearing English livery. All that we hear amongst our people are cries against the deaths of our sons in battle and the stench of death that still lingers from the sack of Toledo. The Spanish people stand united against this, and in fact divisions within the parliament have dissolved to express in one voice their resolution against these actions.

Our ambassador to Washington has been charged with talking with the American mediators to hear what proposals they have. As we finish cleansing our soil of the ravenging forces which have landed upon it we would look forward to some sort of an acceptable peace.

[Paddy]

Peace yes peace indeed

Glad to hear you have the reebels under control

Hmm so what are you offering for peace in our times

[ChrisiusMaximus]

OK well as far as peace talks go then you both need to contact America with your requirements, as I can do nothing without your input.

I would suggest you both act with haste, and I would also suggest you both accept a white peace, have you seen how fast the Germans are claiming the unsettled territory of this world!!!

You both have nothing to gain from further prosecuting this conflict and very much to lose especially with an overwhelmingly powerful German state on your doorsteps!!

The save has been sent to our good friends the people of Germany, long may their example of peacable living shine to the rest of the world

[snoopy369]

The peaceable, yet mighty and fearless Germans are sad to hear that peace was once nearly achieved, and yet aborted by the English. Perhaps the English would have something to say about this accusation? The Germans eagerly await such a reply.

Turn sent.

[MFCamillus]

1820 to Paddy

[Paddy]

1820 to Chrisius

hey Germany


Bah Humbug

[snoopy369]

ooc : Paddy, this sort of thing in a PBEM is fairly important. In an AI game, you have "reputation", that the AIs seem to know if you've broken deals with other AIs instantly and for long periods of time. In a PBEM, you have the same thing, but it's not definite -- ie, one person could say one thing and one person another.

As such, when I'm told that you made a peace treaty and then broke it immediately, I want to hear your side of the story first before I take any action. I'm doing you that favor, because making and then immediately breaking a peace treaty is one of the worst things that you can do from my standpoint. I see our agreement as depending on mutual trust -- and if you're breaking treaties with other people right after making them, I see no reason to trust you to keep your side of our agreement.

On the other hand, I'd like to give you a chance to explain if this has been misrepresented or misunderstood, as that happens a lot in human-human interactions.

/ooc

[ChrisiusMaximus]

Played and sent to snoopy

I can release the news that negotiations are under way now, can both nations abide by a cease fire until final agreement has been reached, in the interests of fostering a sustainable peace resolution

[snoopy369]

Save sent on to MFCamillus.

The Germans are overjoyed to hear that peace may have been reached in the Anglo-Spanish Conflict. Perhaps peace will once again reign over all the world.

On a side note, we are sad to see that the residents of Hastings have not taken as well to these glad tidings. If Sir Paddy of the English would desire any assistance in quashing the rebels, my Destroyer would gladly lend its assistance, as a show of strength by an Ally to the Crown often enables a Leader to obtain the support of his Subjects all the more readily.

[Paddy]

underway


1822 to The Yank