PATCH v1.21f bugs and issues.

[Laiquendi]

The AI assigns wildly different values to different techs. I once bought democracy for 10 gold, and traded medicine for two mid-level techs from the age before, plus a large quantity of gold.

As mentioned, AI tech sharing is still rampant, money per turn valuation is still screwed.

In my last game luxury trading was really strange.. the AI would never trade me a luxury for anything less than two of mine, plus gold per turn.

A strange bug i've run into: randomly some civilizations do not appear on my foreign advisor screen. In my last game, the babylonians and the persians (and the greeks and romans, before I killed them) were there, while the germans, french, russians, and english did not show up.

[Fidel]

can anyone from firaxis please let us know if they noticed the same things in the last patch?

[dawidge]

Originally posted by Laiquendi
In my last game luxury trading was really strange.. the AI would never trade me a luxury for anything less than two of mine, plus gold per turn.

The AI knows that luxuries are more advantageous to the player than to themselves. Also, if you have broken trade treaties before (by going to war with an AI with whom you were trading) the costs go up because you have a history of breaking treaties. I don't think it matters if the AI declared against you (breaking the treaty with you), or if you declared against the AI (you broke the treaty with the AI), just that the treaty was broken.

A strange bug i've run into: randomly some civilizations do not appear on my foreign advisor screen. In my last game, the babylonians and the persians (and the greeks and romans, before I killed them) were there, while the germans, french, russians, and english did not show up.

Shift-right-click on an empty (or occupied) circle to (re)assign it to another civ. Only 8 civs may be seen on the advisor screen regardless of how many are in the game.

[louiethelesbo]

The game continues to get worse instead of better. I am ready to go back to 1.16f. I thought the concept behind a patch was to improve the product not to further screw it up.

[ireant]

Save Game file date & time wrong

I was deleting a savegame this morning when I noticed the creation date and time settings were wrong. I immediately checked my system date and time: it was correct. I am left to conclude that the patch now saves games one week off and PM instead of AM. I know for a fact that the previous patch didn't do this.

Can anyone verify my experience?

Thanks,
Anthony

[crewealex]

Everytime I start my first city the city centre square gets 3 commerce, Desert,hill,grass,next to river,not next to river--- anywhere. Is this how it should be or is something going wrong somewhere?
I seem to recall that without patches the base commerce was 1.

[Insigna]

Ok i havent had a chance to read all this but I have found some huge bugs. First off the game everyonce in a while while i am moving a certian frigite. Not everytime but once in a while im moving the mouse seeing how many turns it will take.

Also this problem has been going for the last two patches the computer gets free advances while i am trading with them. It begins to get ridiclas and makes trading technology not just worthless but harmfull. The comp seems to be 3 advances ahead of me at all time knowmater what.

[Insigna]

I thought of two more. In my games some of the other civs leaders are dressed in the next ages clothing with the next ages city types however it is clear that they are not yet in the next age. why is this? And yes I know for a fact that they arent even close to the next age.

Also i can't trade cetain resorses or luxuries with certain civs its just not an option. sometimes for example i will be able to trade grapes but none of my horses iron or saltpeter.

[Inverse Icarus]

i'm not reading all 7 pages but i'm having a lot of scrolling issues with the new patch. i cant scroll with nmy mouse all the time.

[Inverse Icarus]

Originally posted by Insigna

Also i can't trade cetain resorses or luxuries with certain civs its just not an option. sometimes for example i will be able to trade grapes but none of my horses iron or saltpeter.

maybe they don't NEED your saltpeter... maybe they have their own or are trading for it with another civ.

[Elucidus]

Originally posted by star mouse
Please examine the issue of resource availability on randomly-generated maps, particularly those that are at the extreme ends of the range (warm, wet, 3 billion etc.) For example, with Oil only found in Desert and Tundra, warm and wet maps may have little or no oil.

Star Mouse,

I play Warm, Wet, 5 Billion all of the time. And while I may not have played until oil all of the time, I have never seen no mountains, no desert, or no tundra. So while there is less (which makes it a more exciting game, IMHO) there has always been some.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Insigna
Ok i havent had a chance to read all this but I have found some huge bugs. First off the game everyonce in a while while i am moving a certian frigite. Not everytime but once in a while im moving the mouse seeing how many turns it will take.

This is incoherent. What happens with the Frigate?

Originally posted by Insigna
Also this problem has been going for the last two patches the computer gets free advances while i am trading with them. It begins to get ridiclas and makes trading technology not just worthless but harmfull. The comp seems to be 3 advances ahead of me at all time knowmater what.

They aren't getting free tech. They already had the tech, you just couldn't see it because it was masked by prerequisites. I am assuming, because other people have reported the same and found the same answer to be correct.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by Insigna
I thought of two more. In my games some of the other civs leaders are dressed in the next ages clothing with the next ages city types however it is clear that they are not yet in the next age. why is this? And yes I know for a fact that they arent even close to the next age.

How do you know? Because you can't see all of their techs? See above.

[notyoueither]

Originally posted by crewealex
Everytime I start my first city the city centre square gets 3 commerce, Desert,hill,grass,next to river,not next to river--- anywhere. Is this how it should be or is something going wrong somewhere?
I seem to recall that without patches the base commerce was 1.

I think this is how it is supposed to be. They have also increased the costs of tech.

[notyoueither]

Re: Save Game file date & time wrong

Originally posted by ireant
I was deleting a savegame this morning when I noticed the creation date and time settings were wrong. I immediately checked my system date and time: it was correct. I am left to conclude that the patch now saves games one week off and PM instead of AM. I know for a fact that the previous patch didn't do this.

Can anyone verify my experience?

Thanks,
Anthony

Nope. Works fine here. Did you somehow reset your Windows chronometer while playing?