ND FA thread 1

[HarryH]

We should ask ND what they would be willing to offer for our free tech, which we should get in about 10 turns. If we can make a deal that should give us a little time to get another city established on Bob.

[Wittlich]

In case anyone is even worried about this:

ND has clared war on Vox Controli for settling Wittlich West on Bob.

[Wittlich]

Oops, here's the link to the announcment in question:

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77084&pagenumber=2

[mjmacy]

Yes I have seen this and am very unhappy about it. we must get Operation Immortal beloved organized with our possible allies.

[HarryH]

We haven't had much communication with ND. I wonder if the war is for real or if it is part of the smokescreen to cover an attack on GS. Has anyone been talking to ND?

[mjmacy]

Not that I know of

[Jon Miller]

RP estimates that ND has 6-8 swords rightg now

Jon Miller

[HarryH]

I wonder if they would put them all in one stack and walk them up to Wittlich West. With some Immortals hidden in the city we could take out that stack the moment they got next to the city.

[Jon Miller]

we just gave away that city

Jon Miller

[Beta]

Regarding communication with NeuD, GhengisFarb has handled the early discussions. I have just written NeuD the following letter. According to GhengisFarb, they are very much on-side with the plan. And why not - other than the ruse, they are not putting anything into it. As to the invasion of RP, we will see.

Greetings Darekill of Neu Demogyptica.

Can you please ensure that borc also sees this message. Distribution to other members of your team I leave to your discretion given the sensitive nature of the information.

I thought this was an appropriate time to write. To start with, I regret the recent tensions that have existed bewteen our nations. I acknowledge your position on Vox landing on the Borcian Continent. To be honest, I still do not agree, but I now clearly understand your position and Vox will respect it. We also acknowledge that we still owe you 20 gold.

That being said, I understand that GhengisFarb has been in touch with you regarding future plans, as well as a very reasonable deal for monotheism which he is obtaining from Vox. Regarding the future, we are willing to help in a campaign against RolePlay on the continent, involving a temporary invasion force of 4 to 5 galleys. We also commit to turning over any cities captured by Vox in such an invasion to either you or GoW.

However, in return, we ask that you help us by keeping the ruse / charade of our war with you and GoW on the Borcian Continent. There will in fact be no Voxian troops on Borc, but we want the public story line to read as if our three nations are involved in a brutal war of attrition. This will be usefull to all of us as it will put our other neigbours at ease. We should also stay at war with each other in the game, other than the turns we want to make any trade deals. We don't want to overplay this pretend war, but make it seem believable, with lots of posturing and rhetoric. It should be fun. You can even update your foreign office thread.

As another sign of good will, I would also like to ask if you would be interested in a deal of Republic for 120 gold, less the 20 we owe you, would be 100. The deal would need to stay quiet.

I wish you all the best, and look forward to hearing from you.

Regards...

BetaHound
Voice of Foreign Affairs
Vox Controli

[HarryH]

It sure would be nice if they would commit to a couple of galleys with units to distract GS. Is Ghengis handling that?

[Beta]

To Darekill today:

Report on Television
Greetings Darekill.

We had to adjust our story line very quickly. We did not realize that turning the city back to GOW would be picked up as quickly as it was by RP. Therefore, we are saying publicly that we are pulling out - which in fact we are.

But then in about 4 turns time, Vox is going to make another try for that corner of Bob. In reality, nothing. But in fiction, we land with a stronger force, say 10 units this time - 4 spearmen, 6 immortals, and another settler. A bloody battle ensues, NeuD and Gow are victorious, and only one Voxian Immortal makes it off the continent alive. We are very poor soldiers.

I trust this OK with you. Please give me a simple note back that you understand and concur with this plan.

Thank-you. We will offer or accept a peace treaty this turn.

Regards - Beta.

[Beta]

Originally posted by HarryH
It sure would be nice if they would commit to a couple of galleys with units to distract GS. Is Ghengis handling that?

Yes - Ghengis is. And NeuD will help out with the ruse, but do not want to commit any troops. I will ask them directly in a day or two, to see if I can change their mind. Even one galley with two horsemen would make a difference. If NeuD and GoW could just cut all the main roads in GS, it would be a great help. Cutting their iron supply would be an even bigger bonus.

[HarryH]

I doubt if they have enough horsemen to cut all the roads in GS. If GS is doing a REX with close spacing of cities there will be a lot of roads connecting each city. Too many to cut to isolate anything. Horsemen with defense of 1 won't last long when attacked by charriots.

[Beta]

Sent to NeuD today. (do you see the last date we have had any contact with them. I had to go to page two to find this thread.)

Greetings Darekill,

It has been some time since we have talked. I trust all is well with the people of Neu Demogyptica.

The war proceeds. We have prepared, and contnue to reinforce the front.

We thank-you for your recent co-operation in the public forum. It was effective in catching them unawares - although that advantage is clearly gone now.

I am approcahing you and the people of Neu Demogyptica with a humble request to support the war. We are still committed to assisting you in the future - but for that to be effective - we need to be victors in this war. Military aid would wonderful, but given your situation, probably not acceptable. We understand that. Similarly, a straight cash loan or grant would be asking too much.

So, what I am proposing is that you agree to purchase engineering from Vox Controli. We are researching it - albeit at a low research rate. It will be ready in approximately 30 turns. We are asking 180 gold for engineering, but we owe you 20 from our previous commitement. That will bring the price down to 160. We are proposing that this be paid as two instalments, 100 gold as 5 gpt starting in 10 turns, and proceeding through to turn 30. And 60 gold payable on delivery of the tech.

We have been marshaling significant financial resources to see this war through to a succesful conclusion - which we remain confident of, despite the public bravado of GS. Your contribution to this war effort against one of the major nations of the world would help to ensure that victory, and go a long way to cementing a future relationship.

Thank-you for you consideration of this deal.

Regards ... BetaHound.