ND FA thread 1

[Rhothaerill]

And a further response from Zayxus. Anyone have a good idea of what we may want.

Hello Rhoth!

ND would like to get the technology Nationalism next possible time.

It is supposed by me, that the Beaker Costs are about 3000 Gold.

By F1 in game I found 2730 Gold.

What does Vox want for the technology Nationalism ?

I dare not wite an offer now (I'm in a hurry) , I have to ask the people of ND what they like to pay.

Best Regards
Zayxus

[Beta]

Jeesh. I dunno. The 2700 gold sounds good.

I suggest a cash deal and another 20 or 40 turns of a luxury. Which reminds me - I said I would start that lux thread. Will do so today or tomorrow.

[Rhothaerill]

How about we ask them for three more 20-turn luxury options and gold to make up the rest of the offer...and see how much gold they offer. Each one is worth likely 400-500 gold by the time we need to use them. I'd like to get at least 500 gold out of it if possible...in lump sum or gpt...though 1000 would be better. I just want to see what they would be willing to offer.

As to the luxury thread...we currently have the standing offer of dyes from Lego, the current deal with GoW that we hope to extend (I'm not sure how much longer it continues right now...it doesn't have a turn number on it anymore) and then three future options from ND for the democracy deal.

[Beta]

Received from Zayxus and my response.

Hi Zayxus. Sorry for the lack of a response. I will get you an answer today. But yes - we are interested in a deal - and I think we are close with your initial offer,

Cheers ...Beta.

Zayxus wrote on 28-03-2004 07:19:
Hello Beta!

It is about a deal between Vox and ND. Vondrak mentioned, that you, Beta, discussed that deal with him.

Excuse me, I already wrote 2 times to Rhothaerill, but got no answer yet. Rhothaerill offered a deal on 24.03.2004.

What do you wish to get for Technology Nationalism ?
What about 20 turn luxury and 500 Gold? If you want more, ND could pay 100 Gold each turn for the adequate number of turns.

Best Regards
Zayxus

[Beta]

Rhoth - I agree. So on the assumption they have luxuries to burn - lets go for the 60 turns and the 500 gold. Unless you want to go for 750 gold or something like that. 1000 seems to be pushing it IMHO.

And sorry - I sort of gave away part of the negotiations when I said we were close.

The 500 gold would allow another couple of rushes. And if Lego pitched in 500. Yee haw. A well educated society we will have.

[Jon Miller]

we are rich!!!

I generally like my gold up front, but if we can get a lot more per turn we should do that

Jon Miller

[Rhothaerill]

PM to Zayxus. I guess I should have responded sooner. In any case I just asked for the 500 gold and 3 options since that is close to what they were willing to offer. I agree that 1000 is pushing it. In any case the deal will be worth close to 2000 gold for us with the luxury options.

Greetings to Zayxus and the many fine people of Neu Demogyptica,

Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, we were discussing the deal in our forum. We would like to trade you nationalism for 3 future 20-turn luxury options and 500 gold. If that is acceptable to your team then I will write up a formal accord for us both to sign. Pleasure doing business with you.


Regards,

Rhoth

[Rhothaerill]

Originally posted by Beta
The 500 gold would allow another couple of rushes. And if Lego pitched in 500. Yee haw. A well educated society we will have.

Yes if this deal goes through and the 500 from Lego comes in then we can rush all three remaining universities within the next few turns as well as at least one marketplace (preferably in Phoenix since that is the one that can grow sooner so will need the aqueduct sooner). Then we can get all the cities going on aqueducts for the hopefully upcoming deal for electricity and get the few grassland and plains tiles we have going on irrigation and railroads for some growth in Hope, Renewal, Seabiscuit, Phoenix, and the New Voice. All the other cities will need workers joining the city to truly grow beyond size 6...but that will be after we irrigate and railroad our area.

[Rhothaerill]

PM of acceptance from Zayxus. I will send them a formal deal sometime today as well as adding it to the moves.

Hello to the people of Vox Controli!

Your offer of
- 3 x 20 turns of one type of luxury and
- 500 Gold
for nationalism from Vox
is acceptable for the people of ND.

Please could you write a formal agreement to sign? Please remind us, when to start with sending the luxury of the contract before and this one. Thank you.

Best Regards
Zayxus
As Diplomat for Neudemogyptica

More gold!

[Rhothaerill]

Official Nationalism Deal

Official Tech Deal Acceptance. Please review and sign this at the bottom and send the PM back to me. Thanks and pleasure doing business with you.

Rhoth




The nation of Vox Controli agrees to send the technology of nationalism -unaccepted to the nation of Neu Demogyptica in 750ad. In exchange Neu Demogyptica will add 500 gold and accept the deal whereupon Vox Controli will accept the final deal at the start of their next turn.

In addition to the gold, Vox Controli will also retain options for three 20-turn luxury deals (i.e. Neu Demogyptica will gift a luxury to Vox Controli upon Vox Controli's request in the future. This request can take the form of either one luxury for sixty consecutive turns or three luxuries for twenty turns apiece).

There will be a 20 no-trade clause from the turn that Neu Demogyptica accepts the final deal (i.e. 760ad) in which Neu Demogyptica will not trade nationalism to any other team.

Signed by Rhothaerill on behalf of Vox Controli

And the response from Zayxus

Signed by Zayxus on behalf of Neu Demogyptica
750AD

[conmcb25]

Great job dealing with the Germans Rhoth

[Rhothaerill]

Thanks, though it wasn't too difficult. Zayxus seems to be pretty easy to deal with. And so far in the last two deals I've proposed, we both had something the other wanted so it was easy to strike a deal we all liked.

[Beta]

Rhoth . You should have been here earlier in the game when we were trying to deal with them. The political situation was obviously different then, but it was painful.

So yes - party time. More cash!

[Rhothaerill]

Interesting proposal from Zayxus. Beta can you talk about it with Lego?

Hello!

Neu Demogyptica offers Vox a deal about a technology.
ND would like to offer 150 Gold / Turn for the adequate number of turns, for example 16 turns for Sanitation. I'm looking forward for your answer.

What about a deal, where Legoland researches along the main Technologies and Vox or ND research for the other Technologies like Sanitation?

Best regards
Zayxus

[Wittlich]

This is an interesting proposal Rhoth...
Will ND/Vox/Lego wind-up in bed together?