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  • One more thing: They didn't seem too interested in Alphabet or Ceremonial burial, but he said he'd poll his people and get back to us on what they'd like to trade. Ultimately, I want to get Iron Working from them.

    --Togas
    Greatest Moments in ISDG chat:"(12/02/2003) <notyoueither> the moon is blue. hell is cold. quote me, but i agree with ET. "
    Member of the Mercenary Team in the Civ 4 Team Democracy Game.
    Former Consul for the Apolyton C3C Intersite Tournament Team.
    Heir to the lost throne of Spain of the Roleplay Team in the PTW Democracy Multiplayer Team Game.

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    • Sidenote:

      After gabbing with Trip about inactivity and how it's plaguing both of our teams (which isn't true, I was mostly just emphasizing with him ) I said I would whip five of my inactive citizens in honor of Trip and Lux Invicti's friendship to Spain.

      If it comes up, feel free to discuss this in public with other people so that it gets back to Trip. His ego will get a kick out of that.

      You may also want to pick names of people who were publicly whipped or volunteer and say that you were on the end of a good beating ... and you don't really know what inspired Togas to do so.

      --Togas
      Greatest Moments in ISDG chat:"(12/02/2003) <notyoueither> the moon is blue. hell is cold. quote me, but i agree with ET. "
      Member of the Mercenary Team in the Civ 4 Team Democracy Game.
      Former Consul for the Apolyton C3C Intersite Tournament Team.
      Heir to the lost throne of Spain of the Roleplay Team in the PTW Democracy Multiplayer Team Game.

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      • Originally posted by Togas
        After gabbing with Trip about inactivity and how it's plaguing both of our teams (which isn't true, I was mostly just emphasizing with him ) I said I would whip five of my inactive citizens in honor of Trip and Lux Invicti's friendship to Spain.
        Yes, I have been quite pleased with the team participation to date. Everyone should give themselves a pat on the back!

        However, if we have to identify the five least active members recently, I think they would be:
        MrWhereItsAt
        Thud
        F-PRO
        Ninot
        mrmitchell

        I'm excusing Luk and Lord_Davinator, who both joined recently I believe.

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        • Why wasn't I mentioned?

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          • Originally posted by Togas
            One more thing: They didn't seem too interested in Alphabet or Ceremonial burial, but he said he'd poll his people and get back to us on what they'd like to trade. Ultimately, I want to get Iron Working from them.
            Well, they're not going to get to Monarchy very quickly without them.

            Is a Alphabet and Ceremonial Burial for Iron Working trade realistic? Maybe we'd have to wait until we get Warrior Code from GoW and make it Alphabet and Warrior Code...

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            • Originally posted by GeneralTacticus
              Why wasn't I mentioned?
              Because even the Most Trusted Advisor knows better than to anger the High Priest!

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              • Good, good. I'm glad to see that I am respected even in my absence...

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                • Re: Lux Invicta Report

                  Originally posted by Togas
                  They have Iron Working and are working on other military techs. They also have Pottery, Masonry, Bronze, and Wheel.
                  They must have Ceremonial Burial too, because it didn't show up in our 'offers' list in the diplomacy screen.
                  "Great artists have no country."
                  -Alfred de Musset

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                  • Re: Re: Lux Invicta Report

                    Originally posted by Crousto


                    They must have Ceremonial Burial too, because it didn't show up in our 'offers' list in the diplomacy screen.
                    I believe the trading works differently than against AI civs. We cannot see what techs they have at all - they have to put them on the table.

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                    • Is anyone keeping up with the mutual defense pacts we have? I would prefer not to have a conflict of interests in the event that the north disintegrates into war.
                      "The dogmas of the quiet past are inadequate to the stormy present. The occasion is piled high with difficulty, and we must rise with the occasion. As our case is new, so we must think anew and act anew. We must disenthrall ourselves, and then we shall save our country." -- Abraham Lincoln

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                      • Re: Re: Re: Lux Invicta Report

                        Originally posted by dejon
                        I believe the trading works differently than against AI civs. We cannot see what techs they have at all - they have to put them on the table.
                        We can't see their list at all (left of the screen), but we can't see in our list (right of the screen) something that they already own. We couldn't see Ceremonial Burial in our list, so they must own it.
                        "Great artists have no country."
                        -Alfred de Musset

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                        • I am proud of our diplomat team .

                          Things are going better than I'd expected. Well done guys !!!
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                          • Re: Lux Invicta Report

                            Originally posted by Crousto

                            We can't see their list at all (left of the screen), but we can't see in our list (right of the screen) something that they already own. We couldn't see Ceremonial Burial in our list, so they must own it.
                            I see what you mean now. Yes, you are quite right.

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                            • I sent my email to Admiral PJ, but now see that Trip may appoint someone else.

                              I copied Togas, Ominipotent Grand And Supreme (TOGAS for short)with the PM. It was short to Lux and just advised we are offering Alphabet.

                              I will await instructions if I should just go to Trip.

                              They down play Alphabet - maybe they know ND has it- or perhaps they are just using as a negotiating ploy. Lets not take anything Trip says too seriously - he can BS with the best of them.

                              Based on Crousto's excellent table of techs, we only have Alphabet over Lux, and they have Iron Working. Thanks to great work by ada, et als, we will have Warrior Code soon too.

                              Now, please, someone begin the whipping. I ask mrmitchell be spared as he is working in my offices as deputy and it may be too embarrassing to have him whipped in front of the Ottomans whom he must work with day in and day out.
                              Note: the Law Offices of jdjdjd are temporarily closed.
                              "Next time I say something like 'lets go to Bolivia', lets go to Bolivia"

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                              • Be careful with that MPP. If it comes to war we shouldn't attack the same turn as the other team does, but wait. Other teams than the team we're allied with may not know of the pact at any costs. I believe it is good for our safety to have one with a strong team we can trust. However never trust an enemy. The tech agreements seem very risky to me. How can we trust that Trip keeps his promise? Second: what if Trip makes a trade agreement with another team like ND. He may not trust them by now, but we cannot look in the future. If Trip trades with another team just as he trades with us (same division of techtrees for instance) He can get all techs of two teams (we're one of the two) and we and the other team gain each but half of his. If my explanation is not clear to anybody, please post a comment. Of course we could also chat about it. This is very important!!!
                                If we make techdeals, I suggest we should make them for a maximum of four techs to be reseached by us. By that way we can check by time if Trip isn't betraying us. We should also demand a tech-trade embargo against the other teams for the techs we have agreed to research seperately and trade to each other.
                                I'd like to hear some comments on this.

                                Aidun Cian
                                "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise can not see all ends." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring.
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