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  • #91
    Señor de la Civ, in the trail against Godking the Inquisition judged that he was guilty and the punishment of exile was inflicted upon him. Why did you not respect this decision of the Inquisition?
    I knew it was wrong. Despite the obvious evidence that he was not just a heretic but also a witch, the Inquisition half bought into his feigned insanity even though they agreed it was feigned and even if he wre insane it would have been a sign of possession by the devil. I live by the Bible, so I had no choice but to kill him. I could not stand to let Spain's righteousness be tarnished by the cowardice of Cardinal Calamari.

    Señor de la Civ, why did you cut GodKings head off? Why not a hand as you said in an earlier testification? Why haven't you kicked him to unconciousness?
    I wanted him to realize in the end that all his connivings had failed. Unconsciousness would have possibly let him retain his smug confidence on the Devil. I had to make him see his evil and realize that the righteousness of God would not allow it.

    Why, Señor de la Civ, did you lie although you knew you were violating an oath to God?
    I do not know. Perhaps, once i denied killing him the first time before I learned of all the evidence, I had been trapped in the web of Satan and his deceptiveness, from which I have only now escaped.

    Why, Señor de la Civ, have you confessed now and not in an earlier stage? Has it to do with the death of Señor Torquemada?
    I finally realized that lying would only help the Devil. I saw that exposing the true evil of GodKing and the faults of this Inquisition would be the only way to truly and decisively defeat him.

    And finally, what punishment do you think that fits to the crimes committed by you?
    I cannot say. I have entirely repented for lying, so it is my opinion that no religious court can punish me for that, though a secular court may.

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    • #92
      Cowardice?

      It was mercy. The man obviously had no control of himself. Demoniacs went, in olden times, to live alone amongst themselves to recover their minds. It may have been a cure, a soul saved. You condemned him. You murdered not only his person but his soul.

      Would God have you condemn him unto everlasting damnation? God mourns the death of even a sparrow. He knows each hair upon thy head. A soul lost to him is a great tragedy and something to mourn. Had you not struck off GodKing's head, he may have been saved yet.

      But you were too filled with hatred to care whether his soul was in jeopardy or not.

      [takes the Pope aside]

      Have mercy. The murder was committed rashly, he knew not the consequences. He should not be blamed. If he were...he would also be in tribulation. This man is also in danger of damnation for lying before God. Let us see that he makes full confession. Perhaps he could be sent to a faraway monastery to live for the rest of his days praising the Lord Almighty as a true servant of God.

      It is only a humble suggestion.

      Cardinal Calamari
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      • #93
        Originally posted by civman2000
        I knew it was wrong. Despite the obvious evidence that he was not just a heretic but also a witch, the Inquisition half bought into his feigned insanity even though they agreed it was feigned and even if he wre insane it would have been a sign of possession by the devil. I live by the Bible, so I had no choice but to kill him. I could not stand to let Spain's righteousness be tarnished by the cowardice of Cardinal Calamari.
        But Cardibal Calamari judged that he would be exiled, not without reason:

        The final judgement inflicted on the heretic GodKing by Cardinal Calamari in the trial against the heretic GodKing
        You shall be exiled from the borders of Spain and from all those people whom you might poison with your dreadful heresy. You shall be noted by the mark of Cain that you bear on your forehead, and any man in Spain who gives harbor to you shall be fined. You shall never again travel through this land, nor shall you speak to any Spaniard again, unless outside these lands. You shall be made to dwell in the lonely regions of this world, where there is nothing but nature, and God. May you find peace there, my cousin, where God walks alone in his garden, under his sun and his moon, in the day or in twilight. May you walk with him there, fellow man, and find solace in His company. May He forgive you, brother, that you will see the truth and walk with Him eternally. May you come to know your Father as a son in the long hours of loneliness ahead. But know that you are never alone. There will be God at your side, urging you to come home, like the prodigal's son, so that the fatted calf may be slain and the feast be prepared, so that you may come back to the Father and be with Him always, so that you, who were blind, will see again. That you, who were dead, will be alive again.

        Cardinal Calamari
        The reason why Cardinal Calamari decided to inflict the punisment of exile on the heretic GodKing, was because he wanted to give GodKing a chance to repent from his sins and to let the almighty God himself decide to do with this man.

        You have taken away that chance for GodKing to repent. You played a judge yourself while you were not allowed to do so.

        What would you say if someone took away your chance to repent from your sins?

        I wanted him to realize in the end that all his connivings had failed. Unconsciousness would have possibly let him retain his smug confidence on the Devil. I had to make him see his evil and realize that the righteousness of God would not allow it.
        GodKing sinned heavily, but that did not give you the right to kill him. That right was given to God and you are not allowed to decide for God. He can do that very well by Himself alone.

        I do not know. Perhaps, once i denied killing him the first time before I learned of all the evidence, I had been trapped in the web of Satan and his deceptiveness, from which I have only now escaped.
        Señor de la Civ. It was your fault, not Satan's. If you would be a true christian, if you would trust God the Father and Jesus Christ, His Son, such would not have happened. Promise that you will never loose faith in God and Christ, not only to me but Him too. Pray that you will never loose faith again.

        I finally realized that lying would only help the Devil.
        That is true.

        I cannot say. I have entirely repented for lying, so it is my opinion that no religious court can punish me for that, though a secular court may.
        You are now not anymore standing before a religious court, nor before a secular court, I, the Pope am your judge now. I want to see that you have thought about your sins. A good way to show that is to tell me what punishment you think you deserve.

        Pope Aidun I
        "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise can not see all ends." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring.
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        • #94
          Give the man mercy. We know that he has not murdered GodKing's soul, because his ghost still wanders the courthouse...all have seen the apparitions of his body saying "Neck...pain..." etc. Also, he has applauded our northern neighbors' play about him. Thus, his soul is not dead and it still lives on our own Earth very much. I believe this is a simple anomaly provided by God in an attempt to help Señor de la Civ's misguided ways, for if he truly was murdered, de la Civ would have no chance in our Courts.

          GodKing was only murdered in the body, not in the spirit; he still has chance to amend his ways even if only in mind and not in deed. I ask that you show mercy on Señor de la Civ and excuse his rash actions if he is truly repentant.

          (If he isn't truly repentant, burn him at the stake, I haven't seen a stake-burning in a long while.)

          Spamish Mitchell
          Really old Dude
          meet the new boss, same as the old boss

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          • #95
            I have just sent my judging on this case to The Holy Pope. I have been quiet, though I´ve heard every word here pronounced, and I think the case is over. It was very sad, as we have seen not only the lost of an herectic that could have repented his sins, but also that of a great Head Inquisitor . Although his death has been an act of defiance, he served The Church as well as Spain exemplarly, and he shall be greatly grieved. Besides, one of The Holy Paladins of The Church has lost his mind, possibly out of satanic possesion.
            This just shows how the Holy Inquisition is needed, and at full strenght , to prevent humans, who are born free of sin and greed from becoming sons of Satan , and thus demonic tools.
            I believe the judgement is over, let us wait the final judging of The Pope.

            Pablo Winterius,
            Cardinal, missionary Bishop and Holy Paladin of The Church
            Señor Nuclearis Winterius the III,
            Diplomat with the Voxians, and also
            Señor Pablo Winterius, missionary Bishop and Archbishop of the Roleplay team

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            • #96
              You are now not anymore standing before a religious court, nor before a secular court, I, the Pope am your judge now. I want to see that you have thought about your sins. A good way to show that is to tell me what punishment you think you deserve.
              In that case, I think an appropriate punishment would be taking away my membership in the Order of Paladins of the Holy Church.

              As for the sentencing of the witch, I do not see how mercy served God. He clearly had shown no signs of repentance in any form, and even feigned insanity to avoid it. Sending him off to the island would only allow him to meet with Satan again to find a way to get off the island, or if Satan found his servant to be of no further use, kill himself and doom himself to complete damnation. By killing him, I spared him of suffering in Hell for further sins he would have committed, whether they be suicide of further evils when he would have returned to Espana.

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              • #97
                Senor GodKing, I must tell you, was not a witch.

                The witch is strictly a female follower of the Devil. What you want, de la Civ, is to say that he was a warloc.

                Senor Mitchell,

                Senor GodKing's soul was murdered in the sense that he can never find everlasting life in God. His spirit was parted from the body, but now wanders in eternal exile because, on the point of redemption, he was slain and now must travel the world endlessly on the back of the wind, seeing the miseries of others and lamenting on how he can do nothing to assist them in their plight.

                He is a ghost, he walks in eternity, neither here nor there, exiled from God, from earth, from rest. He is condemned to wander all things in heaven and earth until the end of time itself.

                Cardinal Calamari
                Empire growing,
                Pleasures flowing,
                Fortune smiles and so should you.

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                • #98
                  End of time. END OF TIME, no I don't think so. I have the option of going up or down (pleasant but borring up, exciting but potentially painful down), but for now I choose to stay here. Besides, I am still working on this whole posesion thing, and I must say that that cute 18year old girl I encountered last night... well, lets just say technically she is still a virgen...

                  Ghost of GK

                  Oh, and by the way, it was no human that severed my head, I will let you all know that. De La Civ is protecting someone, who in truth needs no protection.
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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by civman2000
                    In that case, I think an appropriate punishment would be taking away my membership in the Order of Paladins of the Holy Church.
                    I will take this into account

                    As for the sentencing of the witch, I do not see how mercy served God. He clearly had shown no signs of repentance in any form, and even feigned insanity to avoid it. Sending him off to the island would only allow him to meet with Satan again to find a way to get off the island, or if Satan found his servant to be of no further use, kill himself and doom himself to complete damnation. By killing him, I spared him of suffering in Hell for further sins he would have committed, whether they be suicide of further evils when he would have returned to Espana.
                    If you think GodKing did not deserve mercy from the almighty God, do you think I should now have mercy upon you?

                    Pope Aidun I
                    "Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise can not see all ends." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring.
                    Term 9 and 10 Domestic Minister of the C3DG I., Term 8 Regional Governor of Old Persia in the C3DG and proud citizen of Apolyton. Royal Ambassador to Legoland in the C3 PTW DG, Foreign Affairs Minister and King of the United Kingdom in the MZO C3CDG and leader of the Monarchist Imperialist team. Moody Sir Aidun (The Impatient) of the Holy Templar Order in the C4BtSDG

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                    • Originally posted by GodKing
                      Oh, and by the way, it was no human that severed my head, I will let you all know that. De La Civ is protecting someone, who in truth needs no protection.
                      WHAT???

                      Is Senor de la Civ protecting an evil spirit?

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                      • It goes from bad to worse.

                        This spirit, Dr. Pinch suspects, is that of the vile demon Azmidaeus.

                        What can be done?
                        Empire growing,
                        Pleasures flowing,
                        Fortune smiles and so should you.

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                        • If you think GodKing did not deserve mercy from the almighty God, do you think I should now have mercy upon you?
                          Yes. GodKing called on Satan to aid him in his evil murders and spreading of heresy and used other witchcrafts (or "warlockcrafts"), whereas even if my killing is interpreted as murder I did no such things. That is the difference.

                          Is Senor de la Civ protecting an evil spirit?
                          The only evil spirit I might be said to be protecting is that of GodKing. Somehow, my method of killing him sadly allowed him to roam the worth instead of burning in Hell.

                          Roberto de la Civ

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                          • Originally posted by History Guy
                            It goes from bad to worse.

                            This spirit, Dr. Pinch suspects, is that of the vile demon Azmidaeus.

                            What can be done?
                            I suspect Pinch is a quack.

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                            • OOC: And not just any quack! OK...so, I stole him from Shakespeare...but who would know, huh?
                              Empire growing,
                              Pleasures flowing,
                              Fortune smiles and so should you.

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                              • OOC: Since nothing seems to be happening can we get this over with?

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