After securing the no Sistine clause from GS, I tried to talk to BigFree, to secure even the very last team - RPers. But... kids... that was SOME fun!
Now, let me put it straight: I am 99% sure they are bluffing (read: lying). If you have a look at their cities, you will find out they have only two that could remotely match our Legopolis - Zaragoza and Pamplona. They would have to be CRAZY to use any of them for a wonder instead of "useful" production - troops and infrastructure.
Yeah, they want to build a 600 shield wonder just to partially trigger their GA. Sure. In a city with ~10 spt, sure. 60 turn build. Sure. We will build both Bach's and Sistine's in the same time in Legopolis (will be @ 20spt with the cathedral).
I am quite pissed off. Talking to Zargon, Sharpe, and Kloreep, we seemed to agree that we shall call their bluff and let them be - if they become reasonable, fine, let them have Theo+Rep (but no more) for no-Sistine. But no way in hell they are getting anything else.
Session Start: Tue Jun 24 01:22:17 2003
Session Ident: #Happy
* Now talking in #Happy
vondrack: yup, here
BigFree: yeah
BigFree: I love mIRC
* Togas has joined #happy
Togas: hello
vondrack: hello, Togas!
* BigFree sets mode: +oo Togas vondrack
Togas: Vond, you oughta join Team Sunshine
BigFree: we were talking about the Theology proposal Lego made to us
Togas: which one?
vondrack: nah... no more DGs for me, thank you
vondrack: getting tired of them a bit... too much agenda for me
BigFree: its not a busy game, just for fun, we would not give you a job.
vondrack: all these late night chats
Togas: it's a silly game anyhow. No stress
BigFree: jus a forum to read when you felt like it.
vondrack: see, I have this problem
vondrack: I am getting easily TOO involved
vondrack:
Togas: Vond, perhaps you would like to join the FAM team and take BigFree's spot?
BigFree: see, I can give you access, but you do not have to post
vondrack: no, please - I know I am so lame in resisting temptations
BigFree: LOL
vondrack: anyway - Togas, I told BigFree that GoW & ND rose in power a lot
vondrack: over the last 2-3 turns
vondrack: noticed that while playing our last turn
Togas: we're getting close to Chivalry. That's when things will get messy.
vondrack: yes
vondrack: we suspect GoW & ND acquired Chivalry
vondrack: that would explain that steep increase in their power
Togas: it's possible, but on the same turn?
vondrack: strange, I agree - but see the graph for yourself
vondrack: it kinda stroke me... and made me wonder what's going on
vondrack: anyway, I may be seeing ghosts
BigFree: They both have recently built cities too
vondrack: right, could be it, too - frankly, GoW would be supposed to tell us they'd be getting close to Chivalry
vondrack: and there was no word from them
vondrack: who knows...
BigFree: I'm looking at the lst 3 saves, and the cost for Chiv did not drop
BigFree: so, it's unlikely they got it
Togas: we've given them some leeway with their current revolution, but we'll grab MZ and get him to talk to us next chance we get
BigFree: perhaps they both have built cities and both have upgraded some other units.
vondrack: hm, then it may be their cities just expanded or something
vondrack: mind you - all I saw was just the powergraph
Togas: mind if we ask ... what's going to happen to Vox?
vondrack: no word from anywhere regarding anything
vondrack: Vox?
Togas: I mean, GS keeps talking about resettlement like it's a done deal
vondrack: most probably, they will go to exile
vondrack: yes,
Togas: where are they going?
BigFree: "Serect Island"
Togas: Fantasy Island?
vondrack: I hope I am not breaching any secrecy clause here
vondrack: they will go to Legos Minor
Togas: Cool
vondrack: that's part of our landmass
vondrack: cool?
vondrack: do you like the idea?
BigFree: North?
Togas: Cool of you guys to do that.
vondrack: yes, the Northern part
Togas: That north-western peninsula.
BigFree: ok, sounds like you guys have some new life long friends
vondrack: it's mostly mountains, no fresh water - I would not really want to start there
vondrack: but they have little choice
BigFree: LOL
BigFree: Are you giving them a city there
vondrack: we believe it's better to have Voxes alive than dead
BigFree: or do they sail there
vondrack: both, I believe
BigFree: ah
vondrack: I mean
vondrack: city, sure
vondrack: sail, most probably
BigFree: right, they said they have Galleys to load
vondrack: though GS is developing some sort of smart way to "hopping" them there in one big transfer
vondrack: strange enough - GS seem to be genuinely keen on
vondrack: getting rid of Voxes quietly
Togas: wonder why?
vondrack: they signed this peace treaty and now they are even offering "expertise"
vondrack: helping Voxes to resettle
vondrack: perhaps they realized their big PR problem
vondrack: and try doing something about it
BigFree: exatly
Togas: We've been too helpful to them about it
BigFree: they realized the nightmare they had
vondrack: LoL
vondrack: yes, too helpful
vondrack: but then... it's supposed to be just a game, is it not?
vondrack: it was getting to a situation it was no longer fun
Togas: true, and I just got tired of having to suffer through their bad PR
BigFree: not that opinons wil change over time, GS will still be seen as the "meanies"
vondrack: yes
vondrack: sigh
BigFree: you can't changed a zebras stripes
BigFree: without skinning him, that i!
vondrack: I know I did go quite far last time, during that "Lego-GS cold war" )
vondrack: but I got somehow turned up by how that public thread was developing
Togas: The public thread really went south in a hurry.
vondrack: yup
BigFree: it really did, it was shameful
vondrack: I even talked to some GS members in private
BigFree: hehe
vondrack: they really DID take that very personally
vondrack: dunno why
BigFree: they contacted me too, asking for advice to improve relations.
vondrack: I perceived that as part of the game
vondrack: this "public opinion" bull****... )
vondrack: as if anyone cared...
BigFree: lol
BigFree: true
BigFree: but it does say alot for how GS hard targets on theri asses when the game started nad got reinforced when they acted as the did in public threads
vondrack: right
BigFree: they id nothing to help themselves
vondrack: they seem to be really deep into their "honour code"
BigFree: HAHA
BigFree: they are deeply into wining
vondrack: not exactly sure what that is, as they did not tell anyone
vondrack: I am not trying to ridicule that at this moment
Togas: It's really a matter of egos and being "right." They are very consumed with being right and will argue the matter to death.
vondrack: they may be honest
vondrack: but they do it the wrong way
vondrack: yes, agreed with you, Togas
Togas: I need to head out. I'm at work now, closing things up, and need to go shopping for dinner.
vondrack: k, see you!
BigFree: lets talk about that Theology deal or other tech deals vond
Togas: see you later
vondrack: ah, Theo!
BigFree: bye
vondrack: forgot about it again
BigFree: lol
vondrack: bye, Togas!
Togas: bye
* Togas has left #happy
vondrack: well - as I said, the no Sistine clause is unlikely to be lifted
BigFree: we are researching it opurselves right now
vondrack: we are short of luxuries and the Sistine's seems to be vital to us
BigFree: for like the last 6-8 turns, I dont remeber exactly
vondrack: hm... any prearranged deals?
BigFree: no deals yet
vondrack: ok, I will be honest
BigFree: but we would consider letting you have the monoploy on it
vondrack: you will get none - all others signed deals with us
vondrack: you are the last ones
vondrack: so - I guess it would really be better to come to some sort of a reasonable deal
BigFree: everyone else already signed "do not build" agreements?
vondrack: everyone else is getting Theo from us
vondrack: that's all I can say, I believe
BigFree: 12: 4) 1
BigFree: well if other teams can build it, then why exclude RP?
vondrack: it actually works both ways
vondrack: you know it's better to focus on a different wonder
vondrack: we know we can focus on this one
vondrack: and frankly
vondrack: with the number of luxuries you have access to
vondrack: we thought that you would not be eager to invest 600 shilelds into something that needs 160-shield cathedrals to work
vondrack: *shields
vondrack: which we seem to have no choice but to go for
vondrack: little choice
vondrack: not no choice
vondrack: all you actually need is marketplaces
vondrack: I wish it was so easy for us
vondrack: anyways - no intention to sound like I am whining here
BigFree: true, we do have a few luxeries; but we are Religeous, so Cathedrals are cheaper for us. Sistine has been on the table for a long time now.
vondrack: ah, forgot of that
vondrack: religious, right
BigFree: plus it helps our GA, If we need one
BigFree: We could guarantee not to go for Bachs
vondrack:
vondrack: nice
BigFree: or even promise a permanent lux deal
vondrack: I am afraid that will probably not work... we are not really hard pressed for gold or anything, so trading Theo needs to bring some kind of a benefit to us
vondrack: all we can think of ATM is the no-wonder clause
BigFree: but you do need luxuries
vondrack: everybody does
BigFree: 12: 4) 1
BigFree: so, would not a combined deal of luxeries and gold get Theology?
vondrack: btw.. is Oracle not religious?
BigFree: I mean the slider can used if you have excess gold
BigFree: I would think that it is
vondrack: I know it's a pretty lame wonder, but as far as the GA-trigger effect goes, it would be much cheaper to spend 200 shields on the Oracle than 600 shields on Sistine...
BigFree: HAHA
BigFree: yes, since it is defucnt with the advent of Theo
vondrack: right - I pointed out I was talking about the GA-trigger effect only
BigFree: sure
BigFree: lets table Theoo for a bit
BigFree: do you have any other techs to offer for sale?
vondrack: sure, np
vondrack: not ATM
BigFree: are you sure
vondrack: and you? probably not... since you are doing Theo yourselves
vondrack: sure - re: techs?
BigFree: yes
vondrack: yes, sure
vondrack: we do not have any other tech for sale
vondrack: just a minute
BigFree: I can think of Republic, unless it is not for sale.
vondrack: I am just checking it
vondrack: hmmm - seems Republic would be available for sale, yes
vondrack: completely forgot about it
vondrack: the NDA has been over for quite some time
BigFree: well, we are "browsing" right now for tehs
vondrack: so - sorry, yes, Republic would be available
vondrack: BigFree!
BigFree: what kind of sdiscount price does Lego have for its most favored nation trading Civ?
BigFree: what
vondrack: you do not think of getting two techs basically for free, do you?
BigFree: hmm?
vondrack: sorry - I was thinking you would like to get Rep+Theo for no-Sistine
BigFree: 12; 4) 1
vondrack: reading too much into it, I guess
vondrack: or not?
BigFree: lol, i can ask my team though
BigFree: Rep+Theo for no-Sistine?? thats it?
vondrack: if you "can" ask your team, I would "have" to ask mine
BigFree: I might be able to get them to go Bachs instead
vondrack: it sounds horrible... but Rep is old stuff... hmm...
BigFree: truthfully, we have prebuilt for Sistine
vondrack: really?
BigFree: do not tell anyone though
vondrack: lips sealed
BigFree: good
BigFree: I would be lynched for telling anyone
BigFree: Did you notice our Palace "jump"
vondrack: yes, we did
BigFree: 12: 4) 1
BigFree: my plan
BigFree: workewd very nice
vondrack: good idea - Madrid was poorly located
BigFree: yes
BigFree: we saw immediate results
vondrack: I can imagine that
BigFree: so, if my team wont go for the Theo-Rep combo for No-Sistine....what is the price for Rep alone?
vondrack: no idea - we haven't discussed that option at all
BigFree: ah
vondrack: I would have to post and ask others
BigFree: about...
BigFree: in you opinion only
vondrack: as you could see - I did not even realize we were able to trade it
BigFree: nothing official
vondrack: BF, I am not going to say any figure here
BigFree: sure, np
vondrack: I would prefer to see that no-wonder deal come through
vondrack: so let's try that first
BigFree: I understand
BigFree: I will push that for you
vondrack: great, thanks
BigFree: Bachs would still be nice
BigFree: not a bad consulation
vondrack: consulation?
vondrack: ah, consolation!
vondrack: right
BigFree: to the Sistine we are prebuilding
BigFree: sorry
BigFree: typpos' galore fom BigFree
vondrack: but that needs Edu and Music Theory, right?
BigFree: yes
BigFree: 12: 4( 1
BigFree: looks as if it might change our plans
BigFree: that why team might not like it
vondrack: understood
BigFree: hmm
BigFree: aren't you doing Education?
vondrack: yes, we are
BigFree: hmm
BigFree: since we are part wat the theo now...
BigFree: *way
BigFree: maybe we can do a further deal
BigFree: to guarantee you Sistine
BigFree: you follow me?
vondrack: yes
vondrack: to guarantee us Sistine - and?
BigFree: How about Rep-Theo-Educ for No Sistine-plus some gold
vondrack: uhhhh... BF, you still aware of who you are talking with?
BigFree: LOL
BigFree: yes
BigFree: its justthat we are pretty mush dead set on building the Sistine
BigFree: it would take something drastic to change it
vondrack: Rep+Theo for no-Sist sounded like a doable deal, but this "new" idea - well, that's not doable
vondrack: we can agree to a free race to Sistine then
BigFree: Ican take both proposals to my team, your and mine and see what they say
BigFree: maybe we can offer you a free lux also
BigFree: for x number of turns
vondrack: ok, let's take the ideas to our teams and see
BigFree: That way in the future you cna still trade your two for another two luxeries
vondrack: sorry - getting really tired here
BigFree: no problem
BigFree: RP really wnats to work with lego more in the future
BigFree: more than GS
BigFree: more than GoW
BigFree: more than anyother team
vondrack: good... I was almost getting scared that you might like ND more than us )
BigFree: HAHA
BigFree: I will talk to you later then
vondrack: ok, then - good night, BF!
BigFree: good night
vondrack: take care
vondrack: bye
BigFree: you too
Session Close: Tue Jun 24 02:23:28 2003
Session Ident: #Happy
* Now talking in #Happy
vondrack: yup, here
BigFree: yeah
BigFree: I love mIRC
* Togas has joined #happy
Togas: hello
vondrack: hello, Togas!
* BigFree sets mode: +oo Togas vondrack
Togas: Vond, you oughta join Team Sunshine
BigFree: we were talking about the Theology proposal Lego made to us
Togas: which one?
vondrack: nah... no more DGs for me, thank you
vondrack: getting tired of them a bit... too much agenda for me
BigFree: its not a busy game, just for fun, we would not give you a job.
vondrack: all these late night chats
Togas: it's a silly game anyhow. No stress
BigFree: jus a forum to read when you felt like it.
vondrack: see, I have this problem
vondrack: I am getting easily TOO involved
vondrack:
Togas: Vond, perhaps you would like to join the FAM team and take BigFree's spot?
BigFree: see, I can give you access, but you do not have to post
vondrack: no, please - I know I am so lame in resisting temptations
BigFree: LOL
vondrack: anyway - Togas, I told BigFree that GoW & ND rose in power a lot
vondrack: over the last 2-3 turns
vondrack: noticed that while playing our last turn
Togas: we're getting close to Chivalry. That's when things will get messy.
vondrack: yes
vondrack: we suspect GoW & ND acquired Chivalry
vondrack: that would explain that steep increase in their power
Togas: it's possible, but on the same turn?
vondrack: strange, I agree - but see the graph for yourself
vondrack: it kinda stroke me... and made me wonder what's going on
vondrack: anyway, I may be seeing ghosts
BigFree: They both have recently built cities too
vondrack: right, could be it, too - frankly, GoW would be supposed to tell us they'd be getting close to Chivalry
vondrack: and there was no word from them
vondrack: who knows...
BigFree: I'm looking at the lst 3 saves, and the cost for Chiv did not drop
BigFree: so, it's unlikely they got it
Togas: we've given them some leeway with their current revolution, but we'll grab MZ and get him to talk to us next chance we get
BigFree: perhaps they both have built cities and both have upgraded some other units.
vondrack: hm, then it may be their cities just expanded or something
vondrack: mind you - all I saw was just the powergraph
Togas: mind if we ask ... what's going to happen to Vox?
vondrack: no word from anywhere regarding anything
vondrack: Vox?
Togas: I mean, GS keeps talking about resettlement like it's a done deal
vondrack: most probably, they will go to exile
vondrack: yes,
Togas: where are they going?
BigFree: "Serect Island"
Togas: Fantasy Island?
vondrack: I hope I am not breaching any secrecy clause here
vondrack: they will go to Legos Minor
Togas: Cool
vondrack: that's part of our landmass
vondrack: cool?
vondrack: do you like the idea?
BigFree: North?
Togas: Cool of you guys to do that.
vondrack: yes, the Northern part
Togas: That north-western peninsula.
BigFree: ok, sounds like you guys have some new life long friends
vondrack: it's mostly mountains, no fresh water - I would not really want to start there
vondrack: but they have little choice
BigFree: LOL
BigFree: Are you giving them a city there
vondrack: we believe it's better to have Voxes alive than dead
BigFree: or do they sail there
vondrack: both, I believe
BigFree: ah
vondrack: I mean
vondrack: city, sure
vondrack: sail, most probably
BigFree: right, they said they have Galleys to load
vondrack: though GS is developing some sort of smart way to "hopping" them there in one big transfer
vondrack: strange enough - GS seem to be genuinely keen on
vondrack: getting rid of Voxes quietly
Togas: wonder why?
vondrack: they signed this peace treaty and now they are even offering "expertise"
vondrack: helping Voxes to resettle
vondrack: perhaps they realized their big PR problem
vondrack: and try doing something about it
BigFree: exatly
Togas: We've been too helpful to them about it
BigFree: they realized the nightmare they had
vondrack: LoL
vondrack: yes, too helpful
vondrack: but then... it's supposed to be just a game, is it not?
vondrack: it was getting to a situation it was no longer fun
Togas: true, and I just got tired of having to suffer through their bad PR
BigFree: not that opinons wil change over time, GS will still be seen as the "meanies"
vondrack: yes
vondrack: sigh
BigFree: you can't changed a zebras stripes
BigFree: without skinning him, that i!
vondrack: I know I did go quite far last time, during that "Lego-GS cold war" )
vondrack: but I got somehow turned up by how that public thread was developing
Togas: The public thread really went south in a hurry.
vondrack: yup
BigFree: it really did, it was shameful
vondrack: I even talked to some GS members in private
BigFree: hehe
vondrack: they really DID take that very personally
vondrack: dunno why
BigFree: they contacted me too, asking for advice to improve relations.
vondrack: I perceived that as part of the game
vondrack: this "public opinion" bull****... )
vondrack: as if anyone cared...
BigFree: lol
BigFree: true
BigFree: but it does say alot for how GS hard targets on theri asses when the game started nad got reinforced when they acted as the did in public threads
vondrack: right
BigFree: they id nothing to help themselves
vondrack: they seem to be really deep into their "honour code"
BigFree: HAHA
BigFree: they are deeply into wining
vondrack: not exactly sure what that is, as they did not tell anyone
vondrack: I am not trying to ridicule that at this moment
Togas: It's really a matter of egos and being "right." They are very consumed with being right and will argue the matter to death.
vondrack: they may be honest
vondrack: but they do it the wrong way
vondrack: yes, agreed with you, Togas
Togas: I need to head out. I'm at work now, closing things up, and need to go shopping for dinner.
vondrack: k, see you!
BigFree: lets talk about that Theology deal or other tech deals vond
Togas: see you later
vondrack: ah, Theo!
BigFree: bye
vondrack: forgot about it again
BigFree: lol
vondrack: bye, Togas!
Togas: bye
* Togas has left #happy
vondrack: well - as I said, the no Sistine clause is unlikely to be lifted
BigFree: we are researching it opurselves right now
vondrack: we are short of luxuries and the Sistine's seems to be vital to us
BigFree: for like the last 6-8 turns, I dont remeber exactly
vondrack: hm... any prearranged deals?
BigFree: no deals yet
vondrack: ok, I will be honest
BigFree: but we would consider letting you have the monoploy on it
vondrack: you will get none - all others signed deals with us
vondrack: you are the last ones
vondrack: so - I guess it would really be better to come to some sort of a reasonable deal
BigFree: everyone else already signed "do not build" agreements?
vondrack: everyone else is getting Theo from us
vondrack: that's all I can say, I believe
BigFree: 12: 4) 1
BigFree: well if other teams can build it, then why exclude RP?
vondrack: it actually works both ways
vondrack: you know it's better to focus on a different wonder
vondrack: we know we can focus on this one
vondrack: and frankly
vondrack: with the number of luxuries you have access to
vondrack: we thought that you would not be eager to invest 600 shilelds into something that needs 160-shield cathedrals to work
vondrack: *shields
vondrack: which we seem to have no choice but to go for
vondrack: little choice
vondrack: not no choice
vondrack: all you actually need is marketplaces
vondrack: I wish it was so easy for us
vondrack: anyways - no intention to sound like I am whining here
BigFree: true, we do have a few luxeries; but we are Religeous, so Cathedrals are cheaper for us. Sistine has been on the table for a long time now.
vondrack: ah, forgot of that
vondrack: religious, right
BigFree: plus it helps our GA, If we need one
BigFree: We could guarantee not to go for Bachs
vondrack:
vondrack: nice
BigFree: or even promise a permanent lux deal
vondrack: I am afraid that will probably not work... we are not really hard pressed for gold or anything, so trading Theo needs to bring some kind of a benefit to us
vondrack: all we can think of ATM is the no-wonder clause
BigFree: but you do need luxuries
vondrack: everybody does
BigFree: 12: 4) 1
BigFree: so, would not a combined deal of luxeries and gold get Theology?
vondrack: btw.. is Oracle not religious?
BigFree: I mean the slider can used if you have excess gold
BigFree: I would think that it is
vondrack: I know it's a pretty lame wonder, but as far as the GA-trigger effect goes, it would be much cheaper to spend 200 shields on the Oracle than 600 shields on Sistine...
BigFree: HAHA
BigFree: yes, since it is defucnt with the advent of Theo
vondrack: right - I pointed out I was talking about the GA-trigger effect only
BigFree: sure
BigFree: lets table Theoo for a bit
BigFree: do you have any other techs to offer for sale?
vondrack: sure, np
vondrack: not ATM
BigFree: are you sure
vondrack: and you? probably not... since you are doing Theo yourselves
vondrack: sure - re: techs?
BigFree: yes
vondrack: yes, sure
vondrack: we do not have any other tech for sale
vondrack: just a minute
BigFree: I can think of Republic, unless it is not for sale.
vondrack: I am just checking it
vondrack: hmmm - seems Republic would be available for sale, yes
vondrack: completely forgot about it
vondrack: the NDA has been over for quite some time
BigFree: well, we are "browsing" right now for tehs
vondrack: so - sorry, yes, Republic would be available
vondrack: BigFree!
BigFree: what kind of sdiscount price does Lego have for its most favored nation trading Civ?
BigFree: what
vondrack: you do not think of getting two techs basically for free, do you?
BigFree: hmm?
vondrack: sorry - I was thinking you would like to get Rep+Theo for no-Sistine
BigFree: 12; 4) 1
vondrack: reading too much into it, I guess
vondrack: or not?
BigFree: lol, i can ask my team though
BigFree: Rep+Theo for no-Sistine?? thats it?
vondrack: if you "can" ask your team, I would "have" to ask mine
BigFree: I might be able to get them to go Bachs instead
vondrack: it sounds horrible... but Rep is old stuff... hmm...
BigFree: truthfully, we have prebuilt for Sistine
vondrack: really?
BigFree: do not tell anyone though
vondrack: lips sealed
BigFree: good
BigFree: I would be lynched for telling anyone
BigFree: Did you notice our Palace "jump"
vondrack: yes, we did
BigFree: 12: 4) 1
BigFree: my plan
BigFree: workewd very nice
vondrack: good idea - Madrid was poorly located
BigFree: yes
BigFree: we saw immediate results
vondrack: I can imagine that
BigFree: so, if my team wont go for the Theo-Rep combo for No-Sistine....what is the price for Rep alone?
vondrack: no idea - we haven't discussed that option at all
BigFree: ah
vondrack: I would have to post and ask others
BigFree: about...
BigFree: in you opinion only
vondrack: as you could see - I did not even realize we were able to trade it
BigFree: nothing official
vondrack: BF, I am not going to say any figure here
BigFree: sure, np
vondrack: I would prefer to see that no-wonder deal come through
vondrack: so let's try that first
BigFree: I understand
BigFree: I will push that for you
vondrack: great, thanks
BigFree: Bachs would still be nice
BigFree: not a bad consulation
vondrack: consulation?
vondrack: ah, consolation!
vondrack: right
BigFree: to the Sistine we are prebuilding
BigFree: sorry
BigFree: typpos' galore fom BigFree
vondrack: but that needs Edu and Music Theory, right?
BigFree: yes
BigFree: 12: 4( 1
BigFree: looks as if it might change our plans
BigFree: that why team might not like it
vondrack: understood
BigFree: hmm
BigFree: aren't you doing Education?
vondrack: yes, we are
BigFree: hmm
BigFree: since we are part wat the theo now...
BigFree: *way
BigFree: maybe we can do a further deal
BigFree: to guarantee you Sistine
BigFree: you follow me?
vondrack: yes
vondrack: to guarantee us Sistine - and?
BigFree: How about Rep-Theo-Educ for No Sistine-plus some gold
vondrack: uhhhh... BF, you still aware of who you are talking with?
BigFree: LOL
BigFree: yes
BigFree: its justthat we are pretty mush dead set on building the Sistine
BigFree: it would take something drastic to change it
vondrack: Rep+Theo for no-Sist sounded like a doable deal, but this "new" idea - well, that's not doable
vondrack: we can agree to a free race to Sistine then
BigFree: Ican take both proposals to my team, your and mine and see what they say
BigFree: maybe we can offer you a free lux also
BigFree: for x number of turns
vondrack: ok, let's take the ideas to our teams and see
BigFree: That way in the future you cna still trade your two for another two luxeries
vondrack: sorry - getting really tired here
BigFree: no problem
BigFree: RP really wnats to work with lego more in the future
BigFree: more than GS
BigFree: more than GoW
BigFree: more than anyother team
vondrack: good... I was almost getting scared that you might like ND more than us )
BigFree: HAHA
BigFree: I will talk to you later then
vondrack: ok, then - good night, BF!
BigFree: good night
vondrack: take care
vondrack: bye
BigFree: you too
Session Close: Tue Jun 24 02:23:28 2003
Yeah, they want to build a 600 shield wonder just to partially trigger their GA. Sure. In a city with ~10 spt, sure. 60 turn build. Sure. We will build both Bach's and Sistine's in the same time in Legopolis (will be @ 20spt with the cathedral).
I am quite pissed off. Talking to Zargon, Sharpe, and Kloreep, we seemed to agree that we shall call their bluff and let them be - if they become reasonable, fine, let them have Theo+Rep (but no more) for no-Sistine. But no way in hell they are getting anything else.
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