Next turn plans 60AD to 1240AD

[vondrack]

Plans for 230AD (Turn 140):

Unit Movement/Actions

1) Ming to move SE and fortify in Forkmouth

2) settler 'Order' to move NW towards the Invoice site

3) G.B. to move NE-NE-NE

4) Gaul to move E

5) Angus to move S-SE-SE, en route to the TarZar white camp

6) Dyetrich to move S-SW-W, protecting the worker, hoping for a promotion

7) Merc Twain to move S-SE-SE, heading South

8) Alexander to move N-N, then N, going after the barb camp, then to F'mouth to upgrade

9) N.C. to move N-N-NE

10) St. Merc to fortify in Farmerville

11) G.G. to move SW-SW-S

12) Troy to move E-NE
13) Hunter to move E-NE
14) Victor to move E-NE

15) Archibald to move S-S and fortify in the TarZar white camp

16) new merc finished in Tarzania to be named 'Max Payne', moved S-S, and fortified in the TarZar white camp

17) new settler finished in Logville to be named 'Abe' and moved W-NW-W, heading to the Abilene site


Worker Movement/Actions

18) Jinxo to move N, then irrigate and road

19) Michael to move SE, then road

20) Jason Jr. to move W, then road
slowly starting to prepare a link to the Castlea site

21) Charlie to move W, then irrigate
keeps working on the fresh water route to Jackson and Dye Fields

22) new worker finished in Sharpehaven to be named 'Patrick' and moved E-N-N, then irrigate

23) Peter to road

24) Ken to move S-S-S, then towards Abilene
25) Jimbo to move S-S-S, then towards Abilene

26) Philippe to mine, then road

27) Farmer to move S-S and irrigate

28) Rover to mine


City Management

29) reassign Farmerville workers from the riverbank grasses SE amd SE-SE to the irrigated/roaded grass E and forest E-SE of the city
same growth/commerce, more shields

30) change Panama production to library
this may be controversial - here is the reasoning: Panama generates 16spt ATM, that's a library in 5 turns, just like how long a knight would take. The difference is that with a library, we waste no shields, with a knight, we waste 10 (!) shields on the last build turn. As we are going to irrigate and work the plains instead of the non-riverbank hill to speed up the growth in the near future, I suggest we make the best use of the current 16spt shield output and do the library, while it is most efficient. With Forkmouth just starting to build military, I believe we can afford a 5-turn break for Panama - after all, it will be 6-7bpt at 60% research (11bpt on 100% research), which is not negligible.

31) check Forkmouth for the optimal WF setup and production goal
there are two priorities for Forkmouth: fast growth and military production. As I am not sure what the possible shield outputs will be, I suggest we try to find the best compromise between fast growth and fine production. Start either a merc or knight (preferrably a knight), work tiles in such a way that the least shields is lost on the last turn at the fastest growth rate.

31a) change Dye Fields production to caravel; labourer from hill to coast
Now, this is very important - I have realized that even with an aqueduct, we will have no 2-food tiles to work and the city will stop growing at pop 7 in 10 turns (just when the aqueduct would be done). As we have only two workers kinda in the neighbourhood (Gus&Stanley), we should first make sure we have 2-food tiles enough and build and aqueduct only then. We need to spit out ~4 workers before going for the aqueduct - I'm working on the detailed schedule for D.F., will post it tomorrow. Changing the build to a caravel is the optimal way to waste no shields already invested, while producing something useful (we can use the caravel either to explore or to ferry troops - it does not matter that much it will be just a reg). This will bring our navy to 6 caravels, which should be enough for the time being and at least K'ville will be free to start an aqueduct.

32) Logville to work wheat, both irrigated grasses and both mined hills; start building settler
growth in 2, settler in 5

33) reassign Sharpehaven labourer from the fully improved hill E-SE to the roaded grass SE-SE; start building merc
grow back to pop 6 in 1 turn

34) Tarzania to work all three mined hills, two mined bonus grasses, and fish; start building a merc

35) reassign Kloreepville labourer from a mined hill to the roaded bonus grassland
caravel still in 1, extra food

[vondrack]

Note, please, that I added quite an important change for Dye Fields, suggesting to switch the build from an aqueduct to a caravel. For the reasoning and long-term plan, see the latest Golden Ages thread post.

[ZargonX]

Vondrack: Your reasoning for the library sound pretty solid. I'm willing to concede that, at the moment, we can delay that one knight. But this means you have to give in to one of my military build demands later

[vondrack]

Hallelujah! Tibi, we can rejoice! We will have our library in Panama!

At least until Steve comes and strictly demands knights only (that be kept on Legos for home defenses)...

just kidding, of course...

[Sharpe]

No, I have also been thinking about a library in Panama for some time as well.

Though keeping some more home defenses isn't a bad idea...

[Tiberius]

Honestly I don't really care what reasoning you had/used for the change. Finally, library in Panama !

(hmm, for how long am I asking this ? )

[vondrack]

Plans for 250AD (Turn 141):

Unit Movement/Actions

1) settler 'Order' to move W towards the Invoice site

2) G.B. to move NE-NE-E
made a very small detour last turn to check for barbs at the tip of The Hammer (no movement points lost)

3) Mercedes to disembark S (replacing Horace)

4) Horace to embark G.B. (N)

4) Gaul to move S

5) Angus to move S-SE-SE, en route to the TarZar white camp

6) Dyetrich to fortify
another, perhaps better possibility is to send Dyetrich after the camp (hoping for a promotion) and Alexander to Tarzania for the upgrade... your thoughts?

7) Merc Twain to move S-S-SW

8) Alexander to move N, going after the barb camp, then to F'mouth to upgrade

9) N.C. to move N-N-N

10) G.G. to move S-S-S

11) LEF1 (Troy, Hunter, Victor) to move NE

12) settler 'Abe' to move W-SW-SW, heading to the Abilene site

13) new knight finished in Jackson to be named 'Gawain' and moved S-S-S-SE-S-S
heading for Zargonia to become part of LEF4

14) new caravel finished in Kloreepville to be named 'Isaac Newton' and moved NW-N-N


Worker Movement/Actions

13) Jinxo to irrigate, then road

14) Michael to road

15) Jason Jr. to road
slowly starting to prepare a link to the Castlea site

16) Patrick to irrigate

17) Ken to move S-SW-SW, then towards Abilene
18) Jimbo to move S-SW-SW, then towards Abilene

19) Toby to move E, then chop forest
clearing the way for fresh water (and speeding up the Tarzania build, which I later suggest we change to courthouse)

20) Bill to move SE, then road & mine

21) Mark to move S-S-W, then irrigate


City Management

22) reassigned Legopolis labourer from the non-riverbank mined hill E to the newly irrigated grassland E-SE of the city
As indicated elsewhere, I suggest that we delay the completion of Bach's by 1 turn, in order to speed up the growth of Legopolis. There is nobody threatening us to build the wonder earlier and an extra turn for research means we will be able to research at a lower rate, saving some cash.

23) Jackson to start another knight
the net shield output of Jackson (14) is ideal for building knights

29) Farmerville labourers to work wheat, both floodplains, both mined riverbank bonus grasses, irrigated riverbank grass, forest and either the non-riverbank mined bonus grass or the riverbank mined regulat grass
depends on how many shields we will need to finish the settler in 1. If 5 (that's what I expect), let's work the riverbank regular grass and make 1 more commerce. If 6, we will have to work the bonus grass to bring the net shield output of Farmerville to 6.

30) Red Bricks to start building catapult
with the cathedral finished, R.B. is now ready for a big pop boost. I suggest we use the city for building 3-turn catapults, alternating between two setups:
T+0:
T+1: gold mountain, irrigated grass, mined bonus grass, three mined regular grasses
----: +1fpt/8spt
T+2: reassign the labourer from the gold mountain to a high-food tile (grassland, preferrably irrigated)
----: +3-4fpt/5spt

31) reassign Karina labourer from the mined iron hill to an irrigated/roaded riverbank plains
32) reassign Karina labourer from a mined hill to an irrigated/roaded riverbank plains
our aqueduct build is ahead of the schedule actually, so we can tweak our original plan a bit, squeezing more commerce:
T141: 15F/80S, after the WF reassignment +3fpt/11spt
T142: 17F/91S, after labourer plains->hill +2fpt/13spt
T143: aqueduct complete, pop grows to 7

33) change Tarzania build to courthouse
Tarzania has a very unfortunate net shield output (9). Considering its distance from both the capital and Karina, I suggest we change the build from (yet another, not really needed that much will all the mercs from S'haven) merc to courthouse, improving the net shield output to 10+ (also, it will be easier to build an aqueduct there then).

34) Kloreepville to start building aqueduct
with 6 caravels, I believe we can take a break in navy building

35) Tiberium to work the cattle and irrigated/roaded grass

[ZargonX]

A few notes on the turn:

-Vox galleys are around the hammer, messing up our move pattern for GB. I did a slightly different move, with Horace moving NE to be picked up next turn and replaced by Mercades.
-Left Dyetrich to fortify, with Alexander going after the camp. Just seemed a better use of time.
-I am a little curious as to where all those Vox galleys are headed... if they are just exploring the coast, why have 2? Perhaps we should contact them and find out what's up...

[vondrack]

Z, research slider to 80%!!!

[ZargonX]

Also, turned research down to 80% Still Gunpowder in 1 turn, but saves us 30 odd gold as well.

[vondrack]

Cool.

[ZargonX]

Heh, we x-posted Good to know we were on the same wavelength, though

[vondrack]

Plans for 270AD (Turn 142):


Unit Movement/Actions

1) settler 'Order' to move N to the Invoice site

2) G.B. to move E
3) Mercedes to disembark S (replacing Horace)
4) Horace to embark G.B. (N)
5) G.B. to move E-E

6) Isaac Newton (I.N.) to move N-E-N

7) Gaul to move E

8) Gawain to move S-SE-S-S to the TarZar white camp

9) Angus to move SE-E-NE, then fortify in the TarZar white camp

10) Merc Twain to move SW-SW-SW to Ahhmyfoot

11) Alexander to attack barb camp NE, then N to F'mouth to upgrade

12) G.G. to move S-S-SW

13) N.C. to move N-N-E
14) LEF2 (Misty, Silver, Attila) to land NE on the spice grass

15) LEF1 (Troy, Hunter, Victor) to move NE-E

16) settler 'Abe' to move SW, heading to the Abilene site
17) MightMerc to move SW, escorting Abe and temporarily protecting Jimbo & Ken

18) new settler from Farmerville to move SE-SE-SE, then S, then found Oasis

19) new caravel finished in Zargonia to be named 'Johannes Kepler' and skip turn

20) new caravel finished in Dye Fields to be named 'Leonardo da Vinci' and moved E-E-NE, then N-N-NW, NW-W-W to Jackson


Worker Movement/Actions

21) Charlie to move NE and irrigate

22) Leopold to move NW, then clear jungle

23) Fritz to irrigate, then road

24) Peter to move NW-NW-N then road & mine
Forkmouth could very well use another mined hill - but the last one in its radius is being used by S'haven. Let's prepare one more hill for S'haven, so that F'mouth can work the hill NW of the forest game.

25) Toby to chop forest

26) Bill to road, then mine

27) Ken to move SW-SW-SW, then road
28) Jimbo to move SW-SW-SW, then road

29) Luke to move SW, then road

30) Farmer to move S-SW, then road & mine

31) Mark to irrigate, then road


City Management

32) Farmerville labourers to work wheat, both floodplains, both mined riverbank bonus grasses, and the riverbank mined regular grass; start another settler
keeping the growth at +10fpt (we still make 5 shields thanks to to pop growth)

33) reassign Red Bricks labourer from the gold mountain to the fully improved grassland W-SW; set governor to emphasize production
growth in 1 turn and we still get the shields from the mountain (thanks to the pop growth)

34) reassign Karina labourer from the fully improved plains SW-SW to the mined/roaded riverbank hill SE-SE
growth & aqueduct still in 1 turn, same commerce, but leaves the plains free for Ahhmyfoot

35) Zargonia to start building a 1-turn worker
to make the best use of the food accumulated over time; we will grow back to pop 6 1 turn later

36) Dye Fields to start building a 2-turn worker
as per the schedule in the GA thread

37) Logville to work both mined hills and all irrigated tiles

38) reassign Sharpehaven labourer from the fully improved hill S-SE to a roaded grassland
no need for extra shields, so let's squeeze 1 extra food.

39) reassign Kloreepville labourer from an irrigated grass to the last mined hill
the city would grow too early (before the aqueduct would be finished), so let's "park" the city at no growth and focus on the shields for few turns.

40) new Ahhmyfoot labourer to work the riverbank plains

41) new Crossing labourer to work the mined hill


42) send Gunpowder as 'accepted' to ND
43) send Gunpowder as 'accepted' to GoW

44) start researching Music Theory at 50-60%
We have two options: do the tech in 6 turns, making almost no money (though not losing money either), or in 7 turns, making ~25gpt. I would go for a tad slower research, as we have a lot of mercs to upgrade... the gold we make in the process will be useful.

[Kloreep]

Agreed with 7 turns.

Orders look good, but I think we should stop to look at the gunpowder locations before playing; worker orders may need to be changed if we want it hooked up right away.

Which raises a question: If we haven't aready connected a saltpeter tile, do we want to? I would say yes, as we can keep building Mercs for as long as we want regardless of resources until we have our GA, and the sooner we at least have the option to upgrade, the better.

[Sharpe]

Yeah, I agree that we should hold the turn to look at the saltpeter locations (for both us and everyone else ) (i.e. even a 24 hour turn might not be a bad idea - especially with some teams taking up to or beyond 48 hours for their turns these days - sigh)

Agreed re connecting saltpeter immediately if we haven't any connected - as we have the choice of either mercs or muskets until the GA.

7 turns sounds good - our gold reserves are very low (especially with upgrades coming) and need replenishing.

Will look at the units and worker situation later as I have been busy with RL problems so I am not completely up to speed on those things.