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  • We can do the investigation, but warn ND.
    ND can pull out any troops, so it will look undefended.

    Or alternatively, ND can temporary pour in the troops, to make it look like a fortress.
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    • Yes, I think we should go with Rep. Like I said earlier, WW was either removed or greatly reduced in MP. This would make Monarchy almost totally worthless.

      I do like the idea of sharing the cost of investigating a ND city. It make maintains the dislike decption. Additionally, I say we tell ND that we are going to do it. That way they can either move troops in to discourage RP from attacking, or move troops out to entice them into a trap.
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      • to adaMada
        adaMada,

        I'm glad to get in touch again. Its been a while!

        About your proposed trades:
        1. I have proposed this and it looks like we will supply you with the 10 gold to investigate Arneblanca. I guess it will work like: we give and accept 10 gold to you; then we send save to you; you accept 10 gold, and then investigate Arneblanca, then send the screenshot to us via email.
        2. It does not look like our side is supportive of this deal at this current time. Please either change the deal or wait awhile before offering it again.

        Thank You

        Panzer32
        Foreign Affairs Consul for the Glory of War


        Dear Panzer,
        I'm afraid that this message will have to be rather brief, as I'm short on time -- RL intervienes yet again. My apologies for my abruptness.

        Roleplay has two deals it needs to negotiate with GoW.
        1) Is GoW interested in spliting the cost of investigating Arneblanca, the ND coastal city, with us. The cost for you would be 10 gold.
        2) We'll have Monarchy soon, and would like to begin discussion of possible trades and sales of the tech. We'd like to aquire Construction + 150 gold for it; we're working on negotations with ND for currency.

        Thanks! Again, my apologies for the abruptness of the note .

        -- adaMada
        Ghengis Farb, please send an explanation/warning email to ND about investigating Arneblanca. Make sure ND doesn't tell anyone about this (sort of obvious)
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        • Why do we need to waste 10 gold on Arneblanca? I am sick of us paying them gold to do the looking and they keep all the benefits. Why don't they pay us 10 gold, we get ND to send us a screenshot and then we send it to them?

          The only city worth investigating right now is the GA capital.

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          • Do we have an embassy in ND yet ?

            Do RP know we do/dont ?
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            • No we don't but I absolutely refuse to support the wasting of gold on silly little roleplay schemes, we are already commited to shelling out a good amount of gold for Monotheism, Republic, Construction, and Currency and I'm sure Roleplay has done the same.

              I would tell them we are extremely strapped for cash right now but would be interested in discussing this in around 15 turns.

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              • Sent:
                adaMada,

                The Glory of War is strapped for cash lately, and we might not be able to help you investigate Arneblanca for 10 gold. However, we might be interested in doing this in 15 turns.

                Thank You

                Panzer32
                Foreign Affairs Consul for the Glory of War
                Proud Member of the ISDG Apolyton Team; Member #2 in the Apolyton Yact Club.
                King of Trafalgar and Lord of all Isolationia in the Civ III PTW Glory of War team.
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                May God Bless.

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                • We should still tell ND that RP is planning on investigating them...
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                  • Donegeal: you can tell them that when you tell them about the Vox alliance.
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                    • From Darekill:




                      Darekill wrote on 03-04-2003 07:25:



                      Greetings amigo!

                      Sorry it's been a bit longer than usual between communiques, but Real Life is starting to intrude a little. Hope things are going smoothly.

                      Lord Togas has got me to ask you about your Iron trade with GoW. Why are you doing that? We're a little confused, especially since we thought that we were fairly united in our concern for GoW's dealings with Vox netting them that city Vox founded on our lands. Moreover, we thought that it would be in both our best interests if we kept Iron away from them, thus meaning we neither of us had anything to fear from GoW in the Medieval Era. They have certainly shown to be agents of chaos, and as we know they are "Mercenaries for hire". Can you let me know something about your intentions and the details of the trade so I can ease my King's troubled brow?

                      To a happier side now - tech trades. We have recently acquired the following techs and are more than happy to talk about offers for trading for them with you guys:

                      Monarchy
                      Construction
                      Currency
                      Monotheism.

                      I know you guys don't want Monarchy and are working on Currency, but are you interested in any of these? Any reasonable offer would be good and beneift us both.

                      That's it for now I guess.

                      Keep in touch,
                      MrWIA.

                      We are still concerned about GoW and there are certain tensions in our realtions that is true but the trade with the iron has been fixed while Vox was landing troops and though we feel that this could have been a trick we stand to our word. That is why they got iron we did get something too and that is the reason why we have realy little intrest in you gacious offer. We have researched currency and got construction and the republic elsewher.
                      The only tech that you can offer is monarchy and it is as i already mentioned of little interest for us.

                      We will keep the contact and i will inform you about our nest researchgoal so we can go sure not to run for the same.

                      your friend Darekill
                      Just to make sure we don't tell diffrent storys where we should tell teh same ones

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                      • They have certainly shown to be agents of chaos
                        Too bad I can't put that quote in my Sig...Yet...

                        "Agents of Chaos" Woohoo!!!
                        One who has a surplus of the unorthodox shall attain surpassing victories. - Sun Pin
                        You're wierd. - Krill

                        An UnOrthOdOx Hobby

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                        • What would have been a really good reply:

                          "How dare you insinuate such things! Our Iron isn't some thing of Roleplay's for us to ask permission on who we can trade it to or not.

                          Since its war you want, it is war you shall have."

                          Seriously, we need to find some REALLY LAME reason to declare war on GS. Just so people think we are really loose cannons and put no thought into our strategy.

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                          • When all else fails, tell the truth. It is in return for the city from Vox. Sounds stupid, even more so when we disband the damn thing. Plus it shifts the 'blame' to Vox.

                            Perhaps we can even contact GS and let them know it is an arrangement of 6 horse only. Let them know we don't want them destroyed, and we will leave if they help make it look like we held up our end by giving us 2 cities, we will then tell Vox our horses are expended and leave...or arrange for a counter attack on Vox with those same 6 horse from the rear...just to keep that war fair and close...

                            It would all depend on how bad GS is losing at that point.

                            Agents of Chaos, indeed...
                            Last edited by UnOrthOdOx; April 3, 2003, 16:10.
                            One who has a surplus of the unorthodox shall attain surpassing victories. - Sun Pin
                            You're wierd. - Krill

                            An UnOrthOdOx Hobby

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                            • From GodKing:
                              Hi GF.



                              Interesting things afoot in the PtW demo game. I am helping Togas out a bit as some of our members are currently MIA.



                              I have been in contact with GS and although they predict a hard time at first, they suspect that they will win the fight. They are very close to having Feudalism. I hear that your team is researching it also, and wish to find out what you are willing to sell it for and how soon you may have it available? We are currently purchasing most of our techs as we are commercial…



                              You and ND will most likely have Chivalry at the same time. Everybody knows that once you do, there will be war on Bob. If not started by you, then by ND. We are prepared to fight now, and will be fully mobilized within 10 turns. Do you want to wait until your enemy, ND, is also prepared with their Ansar’s? I know we don’t. However, we are a nation ruled by peace lovers, and will not start any conflict.



                              Thus, I am working on a proposal. One to eliminate ND, let you get the Iron you need, allow you AND us to share Bob (without ND there is plenty of room for two teams). We both attack PRIOR to having chivalry, but after Feudalism. Territory, you get the north and we get the south. Line of no build to be in-between (thus assuring each team has a DMZ like Korea). Final details to be worked on, but that is the gist.



                              Lego is the world’s biggest threat. Vox and GS will weaken each other that it will take another 50 turns after the war ends for the winner to regroup. On Bob, there is not enough room for three teams to effectively compete with Lego. Lego will win this game the way things are going, and neither of us wants to see that.



                              So, a plan: We jointly attack ND around turn 105. Specifics to be worked out later. If necessary, we can provide iron (it will hurt us, but we can) until you capture the ND northern iron and connect it. Please discuss with your team and get back to either myself or Togas. If it is a go I will be doing a large part of the coordination for our team. Realize, surprise is a key element here. That is why it must occur prior to Chivalry.



                              Godking

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                              • Turn 105 = 470bc with my calculations. About 14 turns away. Of course, we will need to delay with this deal. We could delay for a while, but then maybe we just tell RP 'no'.

                                This, of course, brings up the issue of when are we going to start researching chivalry. This can start as soon as we get feudalism from GS, which can be in 2 turns if we give GS 100g + 5 gpt accepted nest turn. We are having a chat with ND on Monday? Good. We need to talk about timing, as well as splitting the continent once we have finished Roleplay.
                                Proud Member of the ISDG Apolyton Team; Member #2 in the Apolyton Yact Club.
                                King of Trafalgar and Lord of all Isolationia in the Civ III PTW Glory of War team.
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                                May God Bless.

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