Foreign Affairs Consulate: Roleplay

[Master Zen]

and...oh yes, I have everything planned out:

Just in case RP talks to ND about this chat, I already e-mailed Borc shortly after:

Hello Borc!

If you remember, yesterday during the chat, mrmitchell, a RP member, entered our chat room for a moment before I kicked him out. It is obvious he saw the list of ND people there, so in order for them not to be suspicious, have told Togas that we had a chat yesterday to discuss the possibility of ND joining the war against GS. I told him that we suppossedly discussed the possibility of gifting Port Isolation to ND to ferry troops to the other side. Of course, all of this is fake, I just wanted to warn you just in case someone from RP asks about our chat.

Next time I will have the chat password protected to avoid these kinds of problems. As usuall, the password will be "Dtrategy"

Best regards
-Master Zen

To which he answered:

Hello Master Zen!
No problem. I post your message in our forum so we are prepared to give RP the right answers if they ask us about this.
Good job! Thanks!
Borc

It better work...

[Panzer32]

Just something funny posted in the main forum:

Originally posted by dejon
I'm hoping that one outcome from this thread will be similar to what happened between RP and GoW in the early ancient age...

After some heated confrontations where members from both sides got things off their chest and beat their chests a little, we learned each others' diplomatic style, everyone calmed down, and we started getting deals done.

Let's see if we can turn this:

Into this:

:lol

We turned this:
into this:

ie: our upcoming invasion

[Master Zen]

AAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA




geez, I'm really gonna feel bad about this....


umm... nah, not really...

[Panzer32]

From Togas via email:

Panzer & MZ,

We already have the map, and don't need another exchange. Thanks

Given the current tensions and drama that has happened as of late, we ask that
GoW sign this agreement. It is the same agreement we signed many turns ago, just
extended and adding in Gathering Storm:

DEFENSE PACT BETWEEN THE GLORY OF WAR AND SPAIN:

1) In the event that a party to this agreement is attacked by Neu Demoglyptica
and/or Gathering Storm, the other party shall immediately declare war on Neu
Demoglyptica and shall commit the majority of their military towards the conquest
or destruction of Neu Demoglyptica.

2) Once the war has begun the leaders of both nations shall meet, exchange combat
and spy information, and attempt to cooperate as much as possible in
the joint war effort.

3) Neither party may negotiate a separate peace with the enemy. Peace must be
agreed on by both parties.

4) This pact shall last until 500AD.

MZ said he would accept this tonight without the mention of GS. Therefore we don't need to ask ND to delay, and ND doesn't want to anyways.

[UnOrthOdOx]

Whoa whoa whoa


Are we just flat out lying now?

That's fine, just let me know...

This will seriously piss off GS. WE WILL STILL BREAK THIS WHEN ND ATTACKS, EVEN IF WE DON'T TECHNICALLY WHEN WE ATTACK.

Does anyone mind if I aproach one or more RP team members as a friend and fish for info by playing dumb?

[Hot_Enamel]

So..

If GS attacks, then we have to attack ND ?
Send this back, and ask Togas to reword it a little better.

When we get the next copy, tell them we are still discussing the GS inclusion.
We are polling it, and it will take 3 days.

After three days, tell them no, because we have worked hard at repairing our relations with GS, and don’t want this specifically included, as it will piss them off.

Then tell him the Brotherhood of Bob agreement covers it anyway, and if RP plans on sending their units to Little Bob, and intimidating GS to attack them, then we don’t want it included.

Then tell them that the time length is a problem. 500ad is just way too long. We want an option to get out of the agreement with a 5 turn warning.

Then tell them that 500ad is just too long anyway.

Then tell them that we no longer think that the agreement is no longer equitable. If we attack ND, we will lose our iron. This means we cannot build replacement riders. Any units we lose, cannot be replaced, and will leave us disadvantaged.
We want RP iron included in the deal... send it back for a rewrite.

Then tell them that even if RP promises their iron, what happens if it can’t get through because of a ND naval blockade? Tell them we want an exclusion clause that if we cant get iron, then we do not have to attack.

All of the above can take 3-4 weeks to negotiate. I think we should use delay tactics.

[Panzer32]

Agreed.

[UnOrthOdOx]

UnOrthOdOx's crazy fever and medication induced plans part II:

Well...

MZ, you want to try the ol' good cop, bad cop routine?

I sent this to Togas last night, basing the wording on what MrWIA, Arnelos, and GK have let slip (RP thinks I am the only sane one on our team...??? ) :

Just to be sure, this is not official in any way.

What is going on?

I admit that my time on the PTW game has been limited. Ok, perhaps that is a bit of an understatement. But, what is going on here?

Last thing I knew we were best friends, now I see what could amount to threats comming from you guys. What happened? I have only really been involved with our relations to GS, so am not all caught up on what has happened with you guys. I am trying to go through the thread now, but there may be holes.

Why did I choose GS? Well, the take 24 hour + to make a decision team, aka GS, fits my schedule better than needing to hold chats like the others.

Anyway, let me know what's going on, apparantly I need to involve myself here as well, and soon by the looks of things.

Togas caught me on AIM last night. Couldn't log (at least I don't know how to...)

Anyway, I wasn't really ready for anything, so while on the fly, I decided: I convinced him that you and I do not get along at all and are constantly arguing over how to handle teams. This has led to our splitting of teams and responsibilities. I told him I was concerned about the sudden hostile language between our teams and would look into it.

Perhaps, just perhaps this will work:

I send him a PM...

In it I lay out the following:

ND bullied us for Chiv (nd already stated as much). Part of this was 10 turns where we could not sell it to RP.

Next, after we sold to GS on a fair trade, GS absolutely refuse to consider a NAP, Will not commit to trading research in the future, and added a 1 turn cancellation clause to a Lux trade after it was already signed. (nothing like using the truth to cloud the truth)

Third, we received info that RP may be in this apparant alliance and GoW was going to be the next team to go out of the game. We assumed not trading would either confirm or deny this by RP's actions. We had the assumption that RP's strategy was MI and Pikes anyway, not knights, and would use this Chiv trade deal as an excuse to start this grand alliance against GoW. Seems to be shaping up that way so far.

Fourth. Ask IF they are really our friends, when can they declare war on ND, when can they attack, and with how much. We want them to go first since we are sure ND is preparing the north. We will wait to see if they do as proof of their friendship, otherwise we are building up for a defense to inflict as much harm as possible before we go out.

[UnOrthOdOx]

Confirmed go ahead from both MZ and Panzer. Trying for quick chat for possible information despite the original intent is now lost.

Yes, we are an awefull team, none of us agree, and we are constantly bickering...and you all hate me for this.

In light of one of my favorite Pulp Fiction Characters, I name this operation: The Clouded Mind Sees Nothing.

(ten points for the reference)

I know you prefer chats.

Would it be possible tonight sometime?

I've got the whole thing down now. I get home at 4:00 PM Mountain time. Can you chat then?

Just to have you know I am creating allot of discontent in the GoW forum even trying to take over relation with you guys. I don't want to see everything we've worked for fall apart though.

UnOrthOdOx.

[Panzer32]

I was thinking... what if Unorthodox 'accidently' posted a vote of no confidence on Master Zen in the public forum? It might reinforce some of the stuff you've been feeding them.

[UnOrthOdOx]

OH dear god I thought I was evil!!!!

[UnOrthOdOx]

That was quick!

Unortho,

I should be free to chat around that time (I think it's 3pm PST), however, I think I should stress that I do not believe that MasterZen is doing a bad job. We aren't asking for a new ambassador to be appointed unless, of course, what he's telling us is just a bunch of B.S. and it's not the policy or decisions of your team.

It appears (at least from what I've been told) that GoW has changed it's policy towards us. We are no longer being treated as allies and friends, nor are we being treated as "just another customer." We're being shafted in this Chivalry deal for whatever paranoid reasons or schemes GoW has decided, internally.

And I'm not sure how changing the messanger is going to change that fact.

--Togas

PM operation: The Sun is Shining...

Yes, I can see your confusion.

It is how we are organized. Our ambassadors have full and complete control over the teams they visit. They are not technically required to poll on decisions, though it is encouraged. I am guessing this change happened around the time GF left, am I right?

This is when MZ gained full control over you guys...

All will be explained in an hour or so.

[Master Zen]

I love this! continue, continue....

[UnOrthOdOx]

Operation: ...But the Ice is Slippery....

I have personally been shocked and concerned with recent actions taken by Master Zen lately.

I hereby call for a No-confidence vote on Master Zen as the Roleplay Ambassador and propose that I take his place for the duration of the next month.

Poll will be open for 3 days,

Options

Yes
No
Abstain

To be 'misplaced' in public

[Panzer32]

Make sure you edit it realistically after a while to make it look genuine