Foreign Affairs Consulate: Roleplay

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by Panzer32
We have the thread. Now, what do we do with it?

I think the best thing to do is to get important messages, and post them in the main forum in a logical order, with commentary.

Yes, I think ANOTHER thread,perhaps the "Case against Roleplay" should be started with arguments utilizing the memos from the Exhibit thread.

I think it would be good to have some members other than Panzer and I work on this also as I think we could build a better case with more perspectives contributing.

Remember, that in my view this is not so much a case to expose Roleplay as dishonorable, but as to defend ourselves because Roleplay has been very active in spreading the word that WE were the ones who have been breaking treaties with them, not the other way around.

[Hot_Enamel]

Yep, I agree.

Only choose a fight we know we will win.

I still need to read everything, but I suggest we only do the Writing deal.

My understanding, is that both teams accepted the offer....and have PM'S to prove it.


We must ensue we dont start...or get dragged into...a name calling match.


When we do the post, in public, I suspect the RP team will jump on it quick with some nasty hasty posts.
We do not respond to those posts until we agree on a formal reply.

As a last resort, and they start quoting any of our namecalling PM's, we just declare that we were "roleplaying" the warmonger type team.


Regs

[Panzer32]

Hot_Enamel: If you want to become the 'official' diplomat to Roleplay, then yes. Go ahead. Most of the communications were done by PM anyway, so your time zone shouldn't be too bad . A new face might do us and Roleplay good.

If the need for a chat comes up, GF and I could probably handle it.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

That accepted Horseback Riding from us this turn which means they are committed to giving us Writing the turn we are north of Sargossa (two turns).

Alternately we could converge two warriors on Sargossa in two turns.

[Hot_Enamel]

How much gold did we give them in the end ?

Or did our bluff of exposing them on the board work ?

[Hot_Enamel]

Originally posted by Panzer32
Hot_Enamel: If you want to become the 'official' diplomat to Roleplay, then yes. Go ahead. Most of the communications were done by PM anyway, so your time zone shouldn't be too bad . A new face might do us and Roleplay good.

If the need for a chat comes up, GF and I could probably handle it.

It seems that we are getting Writing from them now, so it is no longer required.

P.S. - I dont want your job Panzer...what I was suggestion was a temporary solution.

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Here's the deal I was trying to work up with Vox and Roleplay, but Roleplay wouldn't negotiate.

Here was the plan.

(Our turn)
We sell you contact with Vox for 25 gold.
We pay Vox to give you contact with GS.
We continue to move our two Warriors north.

(Your turn)
You receive Contact with Vox from us.
You receive Contact with GS from Vox.

You give us Writing.

You now have the ability to sell contact with GS to both Lux and ND.

You also have the first chance to sell techs to GS.

In Conclusion
We get 25 gold now, Writing and Contact with GS on our next turn (since you would give it to us on your turn)

You get contact with Vox, GS, and the first opportunity to sell contact with GS to Lux and ND, and the first opportunity to sell techs to GS which should allow you to make some very lucrative deals.

Prior agreements still in effect:
Non-Aggression Treaty between Roleplay and Gow, expires ??
Roleplay cannot trade Horseback Riding for 14 turns.
GoW would not be able to trade Writing for 15 turns after it receives it.

[Hot_Enamel]

I understand the deal now.

I am not surprised RP would not agree.
They need a week to review the offer, add 3-4 additional clauses, haggle to half the price, poll it on thie own site, have it rejected, and haggle for an even cheaper price, then decline on the offer.

Regs

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by Hot_Enamel
I understand the deal now.

I am not surprised RP would not agree.
They need a week to review the offer, add 3-4 additional clauses, haggle to half the price, poll it on thie own site, have it rejected, and haggle for an even cheaper price, then decline on the offer.

Regs

Roleplay agreed, we confirmed a Non Agression treaty for 30 turns from this turn in addition.

Am awaiting a response from Vox on the following:

I haven't sent the game because I want to iron out this deal:

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We will give you Warrior Code AND contact with Roleplay for 15 gold now.

On your turn we will give you Horseback Riding, and in return you:

Give us and Roleplay contact with GS and agree NOT to trade Horseback Riding to GS (allow us the right to trade it to them) and give us 15 gold (if you do not have 15 gold we would accept 1 gold a turn for 20 turns).

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We can offer contact with ND on the second turn also if you wish to expand the offer, Roleplay will be able to offer you Writing also.

Please respond within the next 6 hours or I will have to assume this deal is not valid and send the save on without this offer being sent.

Thanks.

[Panzer32]

Roleplay agreed, we confirmed a Non Agression treaty for 30 turns from this turn in addition.

So, thats 30 turns from 1790bc... thats... calculating... 1025 BC?

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by Panzer32


So, thats 30 turns from 1790bc... thats... calculating... 1025 BC?

I'm not sure, as the game changes the period of each turn at certain points, but at least now we can calculate it.

[Panzer32]

I counted the game period change. The game turn counter changes next turn, actually, from 40 to 25 turns. Then it changes to 20 years at 750 BC.

[Panzer32]

Should we send a confirmation of the expiration date?
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adaMada,

I'm glad that our two teams have decided to get along, and extend our nonagression pact. Just to confirm it; it is a thirty turn nonagression pact signed during 1790 BC. I calculate this means the pact expires in 1025 BC. Please get your team to confirm this.

Thank you;

Panzer32
Foreign Affairs Consul for the Glory of War

[GhengisFarbâ„¢]

Originally posted by Panzer32
Should we send a confirmation of the expiration date?

Sure.

[Panzer32]

I just told adaMada about the expiration date in chat, and he will get his team to confirm it.