DIPLO: Glory of War contact LOG

[OPD]

Originally posted by Theseus
This thing that we do, the PTWDG, is one of the most amazing phenomenon in the Internet and gaming world… it pains me that it has suffered as it has, and that team participation has lessened as it has… but nonetheless, it is a harbinger of things to come.

Nice comment here. I agree this game is truly unique in the internet and gaming world. It's not about the civ it's all about the politics and this game is more gripping and fun than any other multiplayer game I've ever seen or played.

I think GS's place in PTWDG history is secured as is the place of all the early pioneers of GS and the generals of the GS-Vox war

Whether GS goes on to become the legendary winners of the first game, wo knows. It's more likely that GS will be an example of how everyone gangs up on the strongest team.

[Cort Haus]

PM to Aggie

Hi Aggie,

It was great talking with you guys on Monday. I hope you're enjoying this part of the game as much as we are.

To business: The RP leadership has accepted the principle of a mutually non-antagonistic stance towards GoW in a hypothetical-peace - and that was from us asking nicely. We are ready to get firm with them at any sign of dissent.

I don't know if you've been in touch with Theseus, but we were hoping for some positive contact with regard to dealing with the Yellow Stain before we played our turn. Your stack is nicely placed to take Fort Loewenmut

Regards,

Cort Haus
Gathering Storm

[Theseus]

From Panzer:

I posted this message in the forums. Hopefully UnO or MZ will be able to meet with you sometime today.


[I am therefore going to delay]

[Theseus]

CivTheseus: You avoiding me?
Raguil79: hehehe, couldn't be avoiding ya if I just added you to my AIM list ;-)
CivTheseus:
Raguil79: I was at the dentist, just got back
CivTheseus: You ok?
Raguil79: yes, just a regular check up, everything in working condition
CivTheseus: I've been reading about Armies at 'poly (weekend catch-up).
CivTheseus: They are stunning.
CivTheseus: "So a 4xSipahi Army with max bonus is friggin' 16 attack??!! And moves 4 tiles?? And blitzes? And pillages?"


Raguil79: yes, though I still miss my military leader rushes
Raguil79: it's almost impossible as hell to rush an ancient wonder now on emperor and above
CivTheseus: I got a SGL in one of the Conquests.
Raguil79: I got one in the epic game (in the beta) but that was only in the very early industrial when I had finally gotten ahead in techs (this on demigod)
Raguil79: I used it for a scientific GA. Wasn't really that helpful actually. Fortunately I had done prebuilds for ToE and Hoovers
CivTheseus: Hmmm... come to think of it, this will prolly be the biggest determinants of difficulty level. At what level can you reliably be the first to research techs?
Raguil79: well, I only played three full games. Two on emperor and one on demigod. Demigod was pretty hectic. I only leveled with the AI after the early industrial
CivTheseus: I am going to start my first epic game after playing the PTWDG turn.
Raguil79: most of the game I spent waging war just to get techs for payment
Raguil79: then again, I wasn't playing that seriously. Rushed through it, beat it in 9 hours
CivTheseus: Yeah, I tried the first two Conquests on d-g... between the change in objectives, some of the new changes, and the diff level... got my ass kicked.
CivTheseus: Didn't you have to play more during the beta?
Raguil79: My main job was actually helping with the spanish translation files
CivTheseus: Ohhh.
Raguil79: I didn't really have much time to play the game. Started a bunch of games, but only finished three
Raguil79: Sid is outrageously difficult. AI to AI trade rate of 200!!!
CivTheseus: Yeah, I saw screenshots that Catt posted... and they start with 18 units!!
CivTheseus: (I think)
Raguil79: it's like fighting a tank with a toothpick
CivTheseus: Well, the RNG has to cut you a break then. ;-)
Raguil79: during the beta I only heard of one guy winning on Sid in an epic game, and that was (he admitted it himself) a map which favored him greatly
CivTheseus: Jesus, I happen to be looking at a chart of the diff levels... Sid also gets 24 free support.
Raguil79: lol... takes us mortals about 2000 years to make an army that size
CivTheseus: So, uh, about the PTWDG...
Raguil79: to be honest I've been a bit awol this week regarding the PTWDG, damn ISDG has got my hands full dealing with our feisty neighbors CFC
Raguil79: but go ahead anyway, I'm all ears
CivTheseus: Ah... I 've been following that too, although I don;t post all that much. You guys are doing a fabgulous job.
Raguil79: thanks
CivTheseus: Re PTWDG, we want to do a deal. It's the only way we see both of our teams having a shot at the win.
Raguil79: ok, did you convince RP for doing an RPodus(tm)?
CivTheseus: I'm of Russian decent...
CivTheseus: I am now banging my shoe on the conference room table.
CivTheseus: NOT RPodus!! lol
Raguil79: "We will bury you!"
CivTheseus: If GoW and GS come to agreement, yes, RP will be relocated to the projects, uh, I mean North Stormia.
Raguil79: LOL!
Raguil79: we're still a bit uneasy at them returning to Bob though, if that's part of the plan
Raguil79: people forgive, but they never forget. RP will never forget this, and if they get even one chance of trying to screw us later they most likely will. I know I would ;-)
CivTheseus: How about if there were a restriction that their territory could not touch GoW's?
Raguil79: maybe
Raguil79: btw, everything I say is "unofficial"
CivTheseus: Think about it... GS will do all the work of resettling... it'll be up to us what cities they get.
CivTheseus: Yes, unofficial... but I need to play the turn.
Raguil79: when do you think the resettling could take place?
Raguil79: because until that happens we are technically still at war and still allied to ND
CivTheseus: Do you mean by RP? Not until after ND was gone, certainly.
Raguil79: ah, I was referring to them going to tha projects
CivTheseus: OH, sorry.
CivTheseus: Next turn?
Raguil79: wow, that's pretty soon
Raguil79: I say this because frankly the team isn't entirely convinced yet, we're still debating it
CivTheseus: I'd like to suggest a one turn ceasefire between GS and GoW (not RP, btw).
Raguil79: I wish I could say "yes" but Aggie would have to respond to that one
CivTheseus: I know.
Raguil79: have you tried PMing him?
CivTheseus: No... dumb of me.
CivTheseus: UnO just logged on.
Raguil79: yes, I noticed
CivTheseus: I think he's going to try to set up an AIM chatroom.
Raguil79: ok

[Theseus]

I can invite anyone with AIM btw, just post your username.

[Theseus]

Strike that... we are now on IRC.

#GoW_CoFA

No password.

[Cort Haus]

Can't get in - sre you sure there's no password?

[Theseus]

I'm trying to figure it out.

[Theseus]

Start of #GoW_CoFA buffer: Fri Nov 14 17:28:58 2003
*** Now talking in #GoW_CoFA
[GoW]UnO> SirUlias: Look, GS has done an honorable job, they have
done more than neccessary already.
[GoW]UnO> SirUlias: NO ONE, and I do mean no one can say that GS
has not done their best and most honorable job in keeping RP
alive.
Theseus> Hey.
*** MZ[Food] sets mode: +k squid
MZ[Food]> there, everything is secure
[GoW]UnO> Ok, Theseus, continuing my line of thought.
[GoW]UnO> The thing is, we would like to be given the opportunity
to honorably finish our contract with ND.
[GoW]UnO> If ANYONE can understand that it is GS.
[GoW]UnO> You have told us that you don't have a CONTRACT to save
RP, but we DO have one for their removal and preferable
destruction.
MZ[Food]> I like the latter myself
[GoW]UnO> I'm sure you can see how this all feels like finding a
way out more than completing the contract.
Theseus> Correct. We would see you entirely completing the
contract... so I don;t see the problem.
Theseus> Let me be specific... RP would not set foot on Bob until
ND's demise.
[GoW]UnO> What I am asking, to put it more bluntly, is would GS
consider allowing us to finish it here, and not keep RP alive.
[GoW]UnO> I really don't see our team subjugating to the pope, nor
do I see us trusting them again.
[GoW]UnO> This also brings problems up with the cease fire you
propose.
Theseus> How so?
[GoW]UnO> It would look awfully strange to others if no action
took place, would it not?
[GoW]UnO> Secrecy is of the utmost importance.
[GoW]UnO> upmost.
Theseus> Nah, not for one turn... we'd fortify everything on hills
and mountains... if you wanted to ping us with Cats that'd
probably be OK, and would be reasonable.
Theseus> Thank god there are no C3C Armies involved.
[GoW]UnO> GS wouldn't have rushed a wonder, I can tell you that.
Theseus> And none of that "subjugate to the pope" crap will be
allowed. I think of their surviving status being a lot more like
Tibet than Vatican City.
Theseus> Some roleplay would be involved though.
[GoW]UnO> You are expecting me to control the posting and roleplay
habits of the like of Ghengis and HotEnamel?
Theseus> LOL
MZ[Food]> that'll be well near impossible
Theseus> Hey, we all do what we can. We can make provisions for
that. I'll bring Nathan back in.
Theseus> Boy was that part of the game painful.
[GoW]UnO> So, there is no way GS will consider Roleplay's
destruction?
MZ[Food]> c'mon have some fun fer christ sakes, game will be
played faster with one less team
Theseus> LOL
Theseus> I won't say no, but it's REALLY hard.
* [GoW]UnO is uncomfortable with the situation of small teams and
votes...
* MZ[Food] also
Theseus> Do you mean a UN vote?
MZ[Food]> yep
*** MZ[Food] is now known as MasterZen
[GoW]UnO> It's possible. You allowed Vox to live...you are saving
RP's ass...
Theseus> Vox vote for GS?? You gotta be kidding.
MasterZen> well, maybe that was part of the contract...
[GoW]UnO> For all I know it was a requirement of the Voxodus.
Theseus> Nope... we shoulda thought of it, though.
Theseus> Damn.
Theseus> 'Cause we would have gotten it... double damn.
MasterZen> you guys needed an evil scheming diplomat on your team.
There's spare material in GoW, next time maybe there'll be a
pre-season draft
Theseus> Given that, I don;t think the UN vote should be an issue.
[GoW]UnO> God that forum better not ever be made public
MasterZen> what forum?
Theseus> Yeah, we are defintely not evil enough.
[GoW]UnO> GoW
MasterZen> lol
* MasterZen makes a mental note to delete all his GoW posts before
the game is over
Theseus> Re the death of RP: It's just really emotionally hard,
even for me.
[GoW]UnO> Yeah, too bad the search don't work on Private forums.
MasterZen> don't worry, Theseus, our glee will compensate your
saddness over RP's loss
Theseus> Thanks a bunch.
[GoW]UnO> Look at it from our side, we have SIGNED something, made
it EXTREMELY public...
MasterZen> Yeah, Togas even calls us "ND's *****es"
Theseus> Man, we're proposing to send them to the projects!!
They'll have maybe 4-5 crap cities in N. Stormia.
[GoW]UnO> And later be back on Bob.
Theseus> You beat the living hell out've them.
Theseus> And they'll have CRAP cities on Bob.
[GoW]UnO> Theseus, the Glory of WAR would like to off someone for
once...geez...
Theseus> I threw out an idea to MZ earlier... what if there were a
restriction that their territory on Bob could not touch GoW's?
[GoW]UnO> If we finally decide to allow them to live, that wont be
a problem. It's the allowing them to live thing.
Theseus> Uh, UnO... you can have the coup de grace on ND, OK?
Theseus> LOL
Theseus> How come it was OK for Lego to save Vox?
Theseus> They were absolute scumbags to us.
MasterZen> they made it funny
[GoW]UnO> That was between you and Lego, I personally made it VERY
public I preferred them to be destroyed.
MasterZen> RP was never funny
[GoW]UnO> I don't like the idea of vassals.
MasterZen> you funny = you get to survive. You boring =
dieieieieeeeee
[GoW]UnO> I wouldn't want to play out a game like that.
Theseus> Well they're a friggin' laughing stock now.
[GoW]UnO> My son is enjoying King Kong...it's rather funny.
Theseus> I don't see what good RP is going to be from a 'vassal'
perspective.
MasterZen> they'll find a way...
[GoW]UnO> Look, we're not in a position to sign the deal right
now, that is obvious.
Theseus> Correct.
MasterZen> there's always a way
Theseus> I'm gonna take a chance...
Theseus> I believe we can get this done... with or without RP.
[GoW]UnO> I meant today, MZ, let the hotheads time to settle
down...
[GoW]UnO> WITHOUT RP would definately be closer...
Theseus> I am unilaterally entering a cease fire for one turn so
we can get a deal done.
Theseus> All units in your territories are going to be fortified,
and no new ones will enter.
Theseus> You guys do whatever you gotta do. I suggested some Cat
pinging.
[GoW]UnO> I can say that we are not in a position to attack
anyway, but may bombard if only for appearances.
Theseus> I've gotta play the turn. Is it OK if we leave this open.
or start a new room specifically for GoW/GS discussions?
[GoW]UnO> Erm, what more needs discussing?
[GoW]UnO> unless you allow us to kill RP...
Theseus> Doing a deal.
Theseus> There's a lot of deal points to settle. Also, I'd like
to continue to address other GoW members' concerns if
necessary... inlcuding whoever wrote the long letter.
Theseus> And, I know that other GSers want to participate.
Theseus> And, maybe you can convince us to let RP die.
[GoW]UnO> Well, I'm afraid that this isn't the best time for me.
I was just here to see to the ceasefire, I am really sorry.
Theseus> If this is going to stay open, Cort Haus can't get in.
[GoW]UnO> I have my kids and can't concentrate/babysit at the same
time.
Theseus> UnO, I'm not saying we have to deal now... I know later
is better.
[GoW]UnO> I just saw your message, and you, and was trying to get
the emergency done.
Theseus> I'm just saying it might be helpful to keep a chatroom
open.
Theseus> And thanks for showing up by the way.

[Theseus]

Start of #GoW_CoFA buffer: Fri Nov 14 21:31:17 2003
*** Now talking in #GoW_CoFA
Cort> welcome back
Theseus> I got knocked off for some reason.
Aggie> welcome
Cort> brb - getting a drink
Aggie> i ahve a hypothetical question. Lets say we currently on
contrct to get RP off Bob. But I could get ND to allow RP to
stay(and my team, really really hard). Could you get RP to accept
a peacedeal that left them on the coast. This is unlikely, but
could provide a more direct route to the future we all want.
would you then withdraw from Bob or do all agreements require a
GS presence on BOB
Aggie> excuse the typos
Cort> We went into this war looking for a presence on Bob
Aggie> like I said ND would almost definitely not accept it and my
team would kill me for even thinking such blasphemy
Aggie> could it be a "colony presence" or must you have cities
Cort> I think we were looking at production as well as resources
Aggie> ok
Theseus> In the end, we are all vying for the ability to
economically compete with Lego.
Aggie> well thye got LUCKY with a continent of their own
Theseus> No sh*t.
Aggie> we had 4 on BOB
Aggie> and you had 2
Theseus> For a short while.
Theseus> Meant Bob.
Aggie> hehe, well i knew there was no way that would last
Aggie> wells i feel sorry for lux, they got as unlucky as Lego got
lucky
Cort> I think we liked the idea of us taking RP Cites while they
get some in Stormia, and if they're really good and helpful they
get to live and get some of Spain back in maybe 40 turns
Aggie> question" do you know where SP is located
Aggie> on Stormia and BOB
Aggie> i ahve that impression from earlier in this chat
Cort> Well my current guess is under those 4 ND Muskets by the
Alamo,
Aggie> ok
Cort> but all we really know is that we've been told we haven't
got any on Stormia
Aggie> really, who said such a thing and are you sure they tell
the truth.
Theseus> Which ws... surprising.
Theseus> ws
Theseus> was
Cort> Well it was suggested in our forum that it was a ruse to get
us running around like headless chickens - which it did in a way
Cort> so there were doubts
Theseus> HEY, don;t talk about chickens that way!
Aggie> hehe
Theseus> Cort is part of GS aristocracy, and never trained the
chickens.
Cort> And it was probably another reason why we were hoping for
Gunpowder asap
Aggie> i can understand that
Cort> THey've al been upgraded to Knights by the time they marcj
past my window!
Cort> march
Aggie> same here. I hear we raze our iders from the mud. But
they're all cleaned up by the time i see them
Aggie> i mean raise
Theseus> Like Orcs?
Aggie> apparently
Aggie> also that is another thing I noticed in C3C, resources are
much more limited
Theseus> So I hear... GOOD. There were too many before. Should
result in more KAIs, and tougher games overall.
Aggie> yes
Aggie> it is nice
Aggie> i has 1horse,2iron/1sp/1coal on my whole continet and it
was significant
Cort> Now you mention it, I wonder what the source for that story
was. Not Mr Blair's intelligence dossier, I hope. (excuse UK
satire)
Aggie> hehe
Cort> Damn, so my peceplay trading games are forked then.
Theseus> I think that ultimately the source of our being informed
that we had no SP was... Lego.
Cort> There's always some dopey AI that'll sell the coal, rubber,
iron etc I need for my puny empire to survive and win
Cort> This like playing Poker with someone who's seen your cards
Cort> Yeah, Lego
Aggie> yes it is. how much do you trust lego. I mean imagine we
make allaince against ND. Then we plan the atatck but suddenly
LEgo atatcks us or you from the rear. could be disasterous
Cort> Our rear has been a talking point of late
Cort> Do they have Nav?
Cort> Lego's internal politics make them unpredictable
Aggie> no idea
Cort> They have opportunists and builders amongst them - and
whoever holds sway at the time shapes the policy at the timne -
just my guess
Aggie> very possible
Cort> So we're not worried about them until Navigation - but
basically we have a cunning plam to defent the east
Cort> defend
Aggie> thats good to know
Cort> think we might actually be able to send on the save in a
minute. Someone get Theseus a stiff drink. I'd recomend a
Stolichnaya - it's what I'm drinking
Aggie> we're still at the stage where amphibois attacks are
difficult. Alcohol is our good friend. I can see an endorsement
deal" the official drink of the Poly PTWDG"
Theseus> LOL
Theseus> I just made myself a drink... new vodka I found called
Svedka.
Aggie> i've seen that. How is it and what type of drink
Cort> Nostravia! (sp)
Cort> I just need a smoked salmon blini to go with it
Theseus> And caviar!
Theseus> Aggie: It's good... I like the taste.
Aggie> thats what matters
Cort> Stolichnaya is to Vodka what Guinness is to beer
Aggie> in that case it must be good
Cort> What's Svedka like?
Theseus> It's got a little bit more taste than Absolut, less than
Stoli.
Cort> Sounds Ok then - I've got this Black label Stoli my gf
brought back from a visit to Tel Aviv - +1 attack strength
Theseus> lol
Aggie> though this conversation is intoxicating, I must go eat.
Still I might try ti be back online for the multiplayer game
unortho/uber et al were talking about. I've never actually play
mp over the net. later
Theseus> Ditto.
Cort> Food is for wimps. Panzer, you still there?
*** Aggie has left #gow_cofa
End of #GoW_CoFA buffer Fri Nov 14 21:31:17 2003

[Cort Haus]

Sent to Aggie split accross 4 PM's . Let's hope it all arrived.

We, the peoples of the Glory of War and the Gathering Storm, in recognizing the threat posed to both of our glorious nations by Neu Demogyptia, agree this nation must be removed from the face of the earth. Therefore, we agree to put our lives, fortunes, and honor to risk in our chance to eliminate this threat once and for all. We pledge to unleash the great power of our Riders and War Chickens for the sake of returning this world to peace!

ARTICLE I - Objective

1. The two nations of Gathering Storm and Glory of War, whose sovereign interests have until recently been opposed in a titanic struggle for balance of power on the continent of Bob, have come to recognize that the stalemate in the Second Bobian War can serve the interests of neither side.
2. The source of the clash of interests - GS's MPP defense of Spain and GoW's contract to remove the RP Civ from Spanish soil must be honourably resolved.
3. A realignment of the balance of power is understood by both sides to be their only realistic chance of victory, with the ultimate need of both sides being to have enough productive land and access to resources to be able to eventually compete with the power to the west, Lego, enjoying a large productive continent to itself, and unimpeded in its economic development thus-far by conflict.
4. The primary obstacle to the aspirations of both GoW and GS, however, is recognized to be the Bobian power of Neu Demogyptia. This contract between the nations of Glory of War and Gathering Storm defines the terms and conditions of the hiring of the mercenary nation of GoW by GS to join and co-ordinate forces in a military and economic alliance to remove Neu Demogyptia from the game.


ARTICLE II - Honouring existing contractual obligations

1. GS agrees to respect the existing contract between GoW and ND requiring that RP to be removed from the continent of Bob.
2. GoW respects the existing alliance contract between GS and RP including Mutual Protection Pact.
3. GS shall clarify to RP that their continued protection and alliance with GS is dependent on RP making and maintaining peace with GoW as required by GS.
4. RP and GoW will mutually end all hostile and destructive intent and actions against the respective parties.


ARTICLE III - Conclusion of hostilities between GoW and GS

1. All Roleplay cities on Bob to be transferred to GS.
2. GS transfers selected cities on N.Stormia to RP.
3. Peace offered and accepted between all parties.


ARTICLE IV - Payment for Contract

1. Delivering the removal of RP from Bob, and enabling GoW to fulfil their existing contract with ND is seen as part payment from GS to GoW against the GS contract with GoW to eliminate ND from the game.
2. An agreement on land rights to make GoW the dominant landowner on Bob upon eventual defeat of ND will be made.
3. Allied participation between GS and GoW to defeat ND, with GoW taking the lion's share of the territorial spoils - giving them a large contiguous portion of Bob as far south as the jungle - would be seen as a substantial balance of the payment.
4. Once GS have Gunpowder, GoW can select a technology they would like GS to research for them as part payment of the contract. On completion, GS will deliver that technology to GoW.
5. GS is also able, in the medium and long tem, to deliver a majority portion of the overall research effort to also constitute a portion of the net payment.
6. For the final part of the payment, GoW are to be awarded the honour and glory of inflicting the final blow to ND.


ARTICLE V - Non Aggression

1. Neither nation shall attack the other during the duration of the contract unless it is mutually agreed to by both partners.
2. Neither nation shall declare war on the other during the duration of the contract unless it is mutually agreed to by both partners.


ARTICLE VI - Technology

1. At the time of the signing of this treaty, GS lags behind GoW in tech, but as soon as they are level, they will be able to contribute strongly to a shared, co-ordinated research program.
2. GS has partially researched Invention, but will need the remainder of that technology and Gunpowder to (a) be aware of the location of Saltpeter deposits, (b) deliver Musketmen to the battlefield, and (c) start contributing to a joint research program.


ARTICLE VII - Optional Rider Upgrade Program

1. In recognition of the unique battlefield abilities of the famed GoW Rider Regiments, developed in combination with the military productive power of Leonardo's Workshop, GS considers that the contract may be more swiftly completed by diverting a portion of its own commercial output to their partners GoW for the purposes of upgrading Horsemen/Chariots to Riders. For the purposes of concluding the contract, it makes more sense for GS gold to be spent on upgrading a 3-move knight at half price than a 2-move knight at full price. GS would continue to produce its own Knights, though less than it could otherwise produce.
2. GS would like to offer GoW the opportunity to benefit from this scheme, in appreciation of the efficient military machine that the GoW Civ has constructed, and to the mutual benefit of both parties.
3. Under the program, the transfer of GS economic power into GoW military power would be a firm indication of the trust and honour placed in GoW by GS. By strengthening their partners relative to themselves, GS is offering GoW a fail-safe security guarantee against a hypothetical GS 'backstab'.
4. The level of gpt transfer would be determined by the economic conditions, capabilities, and logistics on the ground, and thus beyond the scope of this document. It might also vary from turn to turn as is pragmatic, rather than fixed-rate deals. A rule of thumb would be 'to significantly strengthen GoW's capacity to fulfil the contract without significantly leaving GS vulnerable to a balance of power deficit in relation to their partner'.
5. Should GoW wish to take up this option, they will be enjoying an additional payment to the already-comprehensive renumeration package offered by GS in Article IV, and will also gain a security guarantee from GS. In a reciprocal gesture which would both honourably provide GS with a security guarantee from GoW, and serve the mutual interests of the fulfilment of the contract, GoW would deliver to GS the technologies of Invention and Gunpowder, with the benefits to both parties that would bring as described in Article VI
6. GS intends to deploy the economic potential of the RP refugees in protected northern Stormia to contribute to the ongoing struggle against ND, by making GPT payments to GS. It is apparent that this source of income could make a valuable net contribution to the proposed Rider Upgrade Program, thus assisting the contractual partners GoW and GS to fulfill their mission. It would be hoped that if GoW choose to partake in this program they would see the value of RP's alliance to GS in their contribution to the mutual cause.

ARTICLE VIII - Luxuries

Both parties agree to share available luxuries with each other as far as is reasonably possible.


ARTICLE IX - Strategic Resources

1. Ideally, full access by both parties should be arranged to all necessary resources - preferably under full urban control, but through trade if necessary.
2. In case of insufficient access to enough of each resource, parties with sole access should co-operate with temporary trade arrangements to allow the other side to upgrade / initiate builds.


ARTICLE X - Wonders of the World

The partners shall inform each other of what Great Wonders of the world they are planning to construct.


ARTICLE XI - Status of the Spanish nation of Roleplay

1. In addition to Article II para 3 above, GS will clarify to RP that their full co-operation with the GoW-GS contract is required under the terms of the existing protection arrangements offered to RP by GS. This co-operation will require the Spanish refugees in N.Stormia to undertake solely economic development work in their new home, with surplus commercial output being made available to GS so that it may contribute to the cause of eliminating ND.
2. Under these demilitarized conditions, RP will constitute no threat to GoW, but will instead be a net contributor to the goal of the contract.
3. Should the Spanish people not accept the terms of their continued protection by GS, perhaps for religious reasons, and given that GS has already paid a substantial price in the cause of their protection - they may elect to dissolve themselves as a nation and exit the game, delivering all holdings to GS.
4. Should the Spanish people accept the terms, and loyally demonstrate a commitment to the requirements of GS and their partners GoW, and if substantial political realignment were to take place in that nation to banish their hostile intent towards GoW, they should be allowed to return to a restricted portion of southern Spain, into areas not sharing a boundary with the intended southern borders of GoW upon completion of the contract.


ARTICLE XII - Envisioned Map and border agreements

After completion of the contract:
1. All lands north of the Bobian jungle to be GoW's
2. Land south of the jungle to be allocated to GS and other possible GoW allies in the fight against ND, in accordance with Article XI para 4.
3. Exact status of border area - tbd


ARTICLE XIII - Completion of Contract

1. Completion of contract shall be deemed to have occurred upon the delivery of the final blow to ND to remove them from the game. The satisfaction of this act shall be granted to GoW in accordance with the terms of payment above, unless both parties agree that the timing of the final act is essential for the necessary elimination of ND on that turn.
2. Upon completion, a mandatory 20 turns of peace shall exist between both parties to this contract.
3. In recognition that GS is not GoW's only potential customer, GS would seek to be given an option, prior to and close to the completion of contract, for the re-hiring of GoW in a subsequent assignment.


ARTICLE XIV - Ratification

1. Once this treaty has been signed by the representatives of each partner, those representatives are responsible for taking the contract back to be ratified by the appropriate consitutional bodies in each nation of Gathering Storm and Glory of War.

2. Upon ratification by the consitutional bodies or Glory of War and Gathering Storm and notification of this ratification in each case is sent to the other nation, this contract will go into effect and the partners will be bound by its terms.


ARTICLE XV - Amendments

This treaty may be amended if representatives of the two partners mutually agree to an amended version of the treaty and such an amended treaty is then ratified using the guidelines found in Article XIV.


Therefore, we, the representatives of the Generals of the Glory of War and the Senate of the Gathering Storm, recognizing and agreeing to abide by the above articles, here place our names, pledging our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honour.

SIGNATURES

[Cort Haus]

I sent this too:

Annex 1: The War Chickens

The steps of the Stormian Senate building are stained with the tears of mothers weeping over their captured loved ones.

Reliable cleaners are difficult to find these days, and the marble is getting so badly stained that GS were wondering whether the captured War Chickens might be returned to them before the builders have to be called in.

[Cort Haus]

Reply from Aggie:

WOW, this is in depth. Thank you. It will take some time to digest and debate, luckily due to bug I think we have the time.
Aggie

[Theseus]

To Aggie, donegeal, and Master Zen:

GS has the turn, RP has agreed to our plans (even though we do not have a signed agreement with you yet), and have turned over to us Toledo, Barcelona. and New Madrid.

We have not yet determined how we will be taking control of Pamplona, whether via abandonment / Palace Jump or by war.

Would you like to chat, and perhaps come to agreement on any needed revisions to the draft contract?

T

PS: I'll try to find UnO as well, perhaps over at MZO.

[Cort Haus]

I got hold of Panzer - they've opened a room, it's

/join #gow_cofa playrole