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**Arrian** · June 13, 2003, 22:52

Ok, so unless we put 1 pike in there, they could take it back.

Can we spare the 1 pike?

-Arrian

**nbarclay** · June 13, 2003, 23:02

It's a pop three city, so razing it would get us what, one slave? (You can tell how rarely I raze in SP.

) The other problem is that keeping the city stretches our defenses thinner. We'd have to expose WCs to attack by pikes in Elipolis (one has 4hp left and the other, I think, two or three), expose 1hp MedInfs to anything Vox might have in Beta-by-the-Sea or Harry's Hideout, and/or leave Inchon a lot more poorly defended than I'm comfortable with (especially with three cats around). And if Vox thinks to pillage the road from Inchoff to Inchon, they can attack Elipolis a lot faster than we can reinforce with anything more than two additional MedInfs (currently on a galley that can land in either city next turn).

Also, if Vox has done any pop rushing in Elipolis lately, do you have any idea how razing vs. capturing and abandoning would affect the current tendency for unhappiness to move when cities are abandoned?

**nbarclay** · June 13, 2003, 23:05

We currently have a healthy elite pike, a healthy vet pike, a 2hp vet pike, and a 2hp vet MedInf in Inchon. We have a vet MedInf in a galley off Elipolis that would be the logical unit to garrison Elipolis if we want to keep it and guard it with more than our WCs. And we have two pikes that are currently right outside Elipolis.

**Arrian** · June 13, 2003, 23:09

Question:

Are our 2 vet pikes next to eliopolis able to load/unload this turn (is there a road by which they can enter eli, and load, and then get unloaded by the galley into Inchon)? Otherwise, would they even help?

-Arrian

**Arrian** · June 13, 2003, 23:11

Any resistance in Eliopolis?

-Arrian

**Arrian** · June 13, 2003, 23:13

Oh, as to your unhappiness question, I have NO idea.

-Arrian

**alva** · June 13, 2003, 23:15

Nathan, wait with moving any galleys, we might have some more trouble coming (GOW chat)

They are about to land 4 units (don't know where (yet) )

Someone has a contract on us to land 6 units..

**Harovan** · June 13, 2003, 23:15

So we have Elipolis? Excellent. It is significantly more important than Inchon. Well done!

**nbarclay** · June 13, 2003, 23:18

You only find out about resistance after you decide to keep the city, so we don't know about that yet. Regarding the pikes, my experience has always been that as long as a ship has movement left, it can unload units in a city even though the units themselves have no movement left.

**Arrian** · June 13, 2003, 23:26

Hmm... I think you're right. You can do that.

I think I'd like to put a pike in Eliopolis, and unload 1 pike, 1 med inf into Inchon.

-Arrian

**Arrian** · June 13, 2003, 23:27

Originally posted by alva
Nathan, wait with moving any galleys, we might have some more trouble coming (GOW chat)

They are about to land 4 units (don't know where (yet) )

Someone has a contract on us to land 6 units..

What the ****? So GoW is going to land troops against us?

-Arrian

**alva** · June 13, 2003, 23:29

It's more subtle then that.

Things are ok atm (they don't have to attack, pillage etc, just land)

**Arrian** · June 13, 2003, 23:31

You gotta be ****tin' me.

Subtle? They landed before. Do they perhaps need a reminder of the results?

-Arrian

**alva** · June 13, 2003, 23:35

log so far

Apolyton Civilization Site

http://apolyton.net/upload/files/alva/111654683546.txt

**Arrian** · June 13, 2003, 23:37

I get a blank screen, alva.

-Arrian

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