MSS, you are up

[notyoueither]

I am chewing my left arm off to prevent me from posting in that thread. What I would like to ask the world is...

Why now the outcry for peace? Where were these voices when immortals poured across the undefended frontiers of a peaceful GatheringStorm?

[notyoueither]

Add to that...

Rather, we have gathered that other civs lined the pockets of the aggressors to enbolden them to attack us. Now you cry for peace? Do you take us for fools?

Go ahead, chirp away. The day of reckoning for Vox is near regardless.

[Arrian]

Actually, I was thinking of this:

Since others seem to see fit to meddle in the affairs of Stormland/Estonia, perhaps the Gathering Storm should see fit to meddle in the affairs of others?

-Arrian

[notyoueither]

That might be good if this persists. Let's give MSS a menu to choose from.

[Arrian]

I'd like to have us contact Lego via diplo channels to inquire about exactly what it is they think needs to be discussed (I assume they're after a return on their investment in Engineering, like GoW). Mostly an info-gathering contact, really. And it has the plus of making them feel like we care.

-Arrian

[zeit]

Honestly, I don't believe Lego cares about us- they havn't contatcted us in a long time, despite saying they will soon come with an offer to Theology. But perhaps communication for the sake of info gathering and plain communication is in order.

[DeepO]

Originally posted by Theseus
Does anybody remember when Little Nicky (Kruschev) banged his shoe on the UN table?

Everybody knows about the picture that shows him with both shoes on, and an assistant shoeless?

Can you imagine the moral outrage at the time? Such blatant and obvious falsehood, in the UN, no less?

And the general castigation of Russia among western / NATO nations?!

LMAO!!

Beta = Nikita

Goddamnit, the more I think about this propanda nonsense, the more amused I get, and the more I see how vulnerable Vox and EVERYBODY else is, as long as we play it right.

Nice comparison... if we wanted to have a funny way of trying to counter Beta's PR, we could use those immages, annotated with two texts: 1 saying "Beta demands peace", the other one saying "but who's shoe is he banging with?" If other teams want to see our reactions, we might do the same to them: some will feel offended, and might comment...

DeepO

[Theseus]

Let's use all this stuff in the StormHawk initiative.

[notyoueither]

I would like to post this, or something like it in 'that thread.'

Originally posted by Beta
So - if this game is going to degenerate into a very personal affair, I for one don't know if I even want to continue.

This is a very good point. However, I ask you if you can appreciate how many on GS may feel when threads like this one are launched periodically. And when this one is launched, senior members of three other teams come out to publically pressure us towards a course of action which is very much against our interests. And then during the course of the thread it becomes clear that those other teams were involved in a discussion that led to this thread?

Do you think that some members of GS may have had just about enough of the way this game is being played politically? Especially when we must conclude that the only point of this entire charade has been to undermine our resolve, or in other words, to play head games with us. Would it surprise you to know that some members of GS are beginning to question involvement in a game where lies about us and our actions are being lapped up by other members of this site and other teams in this game?

You are not the only one who thinks that certain aspects of this game are being carried entirely too far, and that we are dangerously near a place where relations between various mambers of this site could take a very sour turn if things continue as they have.

I may not be entirely accurate in my conclusions about this thread or about all who have participated. However, what I am accurate about is how it is being perceived in our forum. Sir Ralph is completely correct. This thread has turned the doves into hawks, and driven the hawks into a rage.

How would you feel if liberties with the truth were taken about you on a continual basis? To begin with it was fun, or mildly annoying. It has reached a point where some of us are rapidly losing interest in the game, and those who haven't are looking for the extinguishment of the source of the injury.

[Shiber]

[Theseus]

I'm fine with it... but can you wait a little bit until StormHawk is ready to go?

I'd like to sorta deluge everybody!!

nye and MSS should maintain the serious stuff, while some of us go a little crazy. (I need that jumbled head emotican from MZO )

Oh, and nye, could you give Ming a head's-up that we are going to try to stir things up a little, in a *good* way, and that we are committed to making sure it is 1) in the context of roleplay and the game, and 2) we will do our utmost to keep it out of the range of the personal. Thanks.

I am really hoping that doing StormHawk, etc., will lighten things up, get us past the issues of the past few days, and bring everybody back for some fun (and, for some of us, maybe blow off a little steam ).

[Harovan]

Fra Ralphus is ready to preach.

Penitentiam agite, appropinquabit enim regnum celorum!

[notyoueither]

I will wait, Theseus. I would like to know what some of the others think of it. I am hoping it is not too whiney.

Most especially, I would like to hear from MSS.

[Harovan]

I don't find it too whiney, and if you replace the "mambers" in the third paragraph with "members", I'm perfectly happy with it.

[zeit]

So am I. I think it's time everyone starts looking at where this situation has gotten to, and ask themselves if they are still having fun?

This is a plea, sort of like admitting defeat, admit being hurt, and go beyond simply asking for sympathy- we ask if others like this to be this way.