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The problem Aro is that the Gaucho doesnt fit with Bolivar. It would be great for San Martin but Bolivar never fought with gauchos. We will have a big problem with this UU, I cant imagine anything. Maybe if I study a little bit more
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Yell
Embassador of Uruguay (the country best known because its flag always appeared between USAs and USSRs flags when they were ordered alphabetically - in spanish USSR IS 'URSS').
Yeah, I voted for San Martin...
Maybe some kind of partisan? Like an explorer with 1 deffense and 2 attacks... Nah, better make it 1 deffense, 1 attack and 1 movement bonus in jungle. One UU very fast... Good for guerrilla tatics.
Historically unprecise, as Firaxis like it...
Originally posted by Aro
Once again, your damn right. A commercial civ... And we can't forget: We are selling all of our strategic companies... We're selling our improvments, in other words! Well... this is quite normal, here... In a certain way, we ARE a commercial civ.
But we agree with the two caracteristics, so we need now an UU. You talked in another post about the 'gaucho'. This unit cames with an interesting concept, it deserves more reflexion. Will be a horseman, I suppose. What do you think?
I would think a commercial civ would BUY other nations companies not sell their own. If you sell all your companies you aren't commercial, some other country is and is providing you with the companies necessary to maintain your economy for a price.
Originally posted by Aro
It was a joke, GhengisFarb. A sad Latinoamerican joke.
I prefer expansionist and militaristic.
Ahh, but it might not be a bad thing. In the lates 70's and 80's US companies were bought out by the Japanese and Europeans and it turned out that the Americans spent the proceeds to buy stock in those said foreign companies.
Now Americans own large and in some cases, controlling interests in those foreign companies.
Ghengis,
As you see we have some humour here in Latin America. But it seems in the U.S. you have much more
¿Are you saying uruguayan chocolate company "Ricard" will buy "Hersheys"?
Your 70s and 80s tactique was good for the 70s and the 80s. Today the U.S. has total control of the world economy, with exception of those countries that have giant numbers of population or those who have a strategical resources.
Let me tell you one big no-secret thing: the only way a small third world country can develop enough to reach first world standards is not getting involved in an hypotetical WW3, leting the big countries destroy themselves and continue selling them the raw materials and primary products. Its really sad, but when there`s no belic war, the human race fights with economical and psychological media... in other words, latin american countries used to fight because now they are controlled by your government.
I have only one wish: please George W., dont send the whole world to the trash can
Hugs
Yell
Embassador of Uruguay (the country best known because its flag always appeared between USAs and USSRs flags when they were ordered alphabetically - in spanish USSR IS 'URSS').
It's funny, but it actually makes sense. If you are a third world country sell everything to the American corporations. They have the capital and technology and they can build business far faster and more efficiently then you.
With the money you made from selling the stuff invest in something you are good at or even the company you just sold to. You know that company will be making money because you just sold them your interests.
As that company gets larger and your assets are worth more buy back the assets you previously sold. They are now modern and efficient and all you had to do was lend them to somone better adapted than you to develop them.
A side note: Companies tend to go on buying sprees, they gobble up all kinds of competition and then have to file for bancruptcy and spin off those acquisitions because they ate too much.
Ghengis,
I know thats a good way to have developed companies in my country. Thats why Uruguay never sold a public companie (different that Brazil or Argentina that sold nearly everything). Uruguay lends them (read in a literal way), we do what its called "tercerización" (in english it would be "thirdcerization" or something like that ). That means the foreign companie takes care and modernizes the local companie while earning its money for a 25 or 30 years period of time. After that the local companie comes back to public control. But that system is too complicated when you have to give a company that actually brings you money: the problem is that as we dont have money to pay the interest of our external debt, we need to get more money than the money we earn from the companies in order to pay the interest.
Hugs
Yell
Embassador of Uruguay (the country best known because its flag always appeared between USAs and USSRs flags when they were ordered alphabetically - in spanish USSR IS 'URSS').
Originally posted by yellfromhell
One more thing Fresno,
¿Dont you miss your Netherlands in Civ? I remember Holland being one of the four empires in Colonization game. I always played with them to enphasis trade.
Bye.
Yellfromhell
I definitely want to see the Dutch in the game! I worked on a project involving the Netherlands for 2 years, and during that time made a few Civ 2 scenarios with a Dutch civ.
But what about Colombia as a South American civ? Okay, I only say this because my girlfriend is from Bogota. I even made a scenario and put the Colombians in as a playable Civ, researching their places and leaders. I said something about 'Bucaramanga' one day, and she said, "How do you know about that town?" My reply: "Because I'm civilized."
My words are backed by... Hey! Who stole my uranium??!!!
Originally posted by Quasar1011
But what about Colombia as a South American civ? Okay, I only say this because my girlfriend is from Bogota. I even made a scenario and put the Colombians in as a playable Civ, researching their places and leaders. I said something about 'Bucaramanga' one day, and she said, "How do you know about that town?" My reply: "Because I'm civilized."
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