Why Poland SHOULD be included in one of the official sets

[Martinus]

Thanks. But I guess if such incidents occured, they were sparce at best. I mean, what sane general would have the cavalry charging tanks? (after all this people emigrated and fought later in British and Russian armies - they would not bring in idiots I guess).

Of course, I am aware that there were cavalry formations in the Polish army at the beginning of WWII. They were quite well trained and used against infantry. But tanks?

[Martinus]

Ok, I did some research on that issue. There were indeed two incidents of actual fighting between the cavalry unit and armed vehicles, but they were less picturesque than the said propaganda movie:

1. the Battle of Mokra - the casual view of the battle reports may give rise to this fallacious rumoursas indeed on the Polish side it was the cavalry unit, and tanks on the German side.

The problem for the Germans though was that the Poles were dismounted and dug in, and firing at German tanks from mortars and machine guns. When the German forces retreated after suffering casualties, the Polish cavalry mounted again. So no charging here

2. a small incident in which the Polish cavalry charged a column of German infantry. They were succesful until two armed vehicles, supporting the infantry, arrived from nearby forest. Few cavalrists died, most of them retreated.

So that's it. This coupled with the images from the propaganda film could have raised the fallacious conclusion.

[Staszek]

Originally posted by Zealot


Didn't get it...

Did't get saudades or why we do not share it?

[Mankind]

sorry, i read that in a dutch history of the ww2. one of the best books (3 volumes) ever written on the topic.
poland is a great nation, but i do not feel that it is 'The Civ' like e.g. Spain or Arabs.

So Americans are not civ becose Poland has more 'rich' history
and Poles where longer on the map than America

I really do not want to hurt anyone's feelings. The fact that you survived between Germans and Russians speaks for itself

I understand

[Fidel]

Originally posted by Mankind
[quot]sorry, i read that in a dutch history of the ww2. one of the best books (3 volumes) ever written on the topic.
poland is a great nation, but i do not feel that it is 'The Civ' like e.g. Spain or Arabs.

So Americans are not civ becose Poland has more 'rich' history
and Poles where longer on the map than America

[/QUOTE]

This is not a thread about viability of including American civ in the game. To say that Polish civ is one of the most important 16 nations/civs/cultures in the history of the world is a tad too patriotic.

[Mankind]

This is not a thread about viability of including American civ in the game. To say that Polish civ is one of the most important 16 nations/civs/cultures in the history of the world is a tad too patriotic.

Youu know what? You're right! So why you mentioned arabs & spain ?

[Mankind]

$%@#$%@#

sorry double post

[LoD]

LaRusso:

To say that Polish civ is one of the most important 16 nations/civs/cultures in the history of the world is a tad too patriotic.

Could you please read the topic of this thread ?

[Martinus]

Although nobody seems to follow this topic, I don't give up (I guess most people are just intimidated by my witty ripostes ). Here's a bunch of links about Polish cavalry in WWII and how it did NOT charge at tanks:

http://mops.uci.agh.edu.pl/~rzepinsk/1939/html/cav.htm

http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquar...2187/polish.htm

http://www.quoteland.com/baronies/war/polish.html

Enjoy!

[Luk]

Hey All!

I think I was first Pole registered in Apolyton. I did it 2 years ago I think, and then I remember when I disscussed alone with other Apolytoners about Poland Greatness... For about half a year I stopped to post anything in Apolyton, but now Im back because I love Civilisation and Im waiting for Civ3

And I think Poland is definitly the major civ in the World. Russians for example are important only from 3 centuries, in XIV, XV century Moscow was not important country which was raided from time to time by our Lithuanian Slaves

Well, if Kazimierz Wielki had son, Poland would never allied with Lithuania, and then... We would destroy Teutonic Knights after Grunwald without problems, conquered pathetic Lithuanians, and colonized East, with Sibieria maybe. And in XX century Germans would immigrate to Poland and work in our MacDonalds as Cleaners. Great perspective!!!!

[Martinus]

Luk, I got this strange feeling that you will probably get flamed very soon. I don't really know why

[pithorr]

Too much espresso today morning I suppose...
I'm already hearing this rush about Polish maniacs!

[Luk]

I don't care it...

[Martinus]

I was joking. Anyway, welcome (back) to Apolyton

[ogotai]

If someone like to see husaria in action:

http://www.jest.art.pl/malar.html - this is Polish site, so it can be for many of you "dead link" because of low latency


http://www.jest.art.pl/ - if someone likes more about husaria (but there is the same restriction as abowe, and its only in polish...)