AU 206: Gallic Glory - Stories and Strategy Tips

[nbarclay]

I find these proposals to trade away a valuable tech for the tiny bit of world map information the AI has and I don't yet maddening. If the AI approached the player with good offers for tech occasionally, it might be different. But when the only offers AIs ever make are completely ridiculous ones, it gets very annoying. About the only thing those offers are good for is an excuse to go to war - a civ that makes such a crazy offer doesn't deserve to live.

[Chemical Ollie]

Hey, easy now, Ms advisor - let's get sanitation first, huh?

Obviously all American cities had hospitals.

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by nbarclay
Olaf, something tells me that with that kind of advantage, a domination victory would be quicker than a space race victory. You can't be too far from the domination threshold now, and if the other continent is sufficiently railroaded, an initial landing force of say 16 MIs and 72 MAs (maybe more if you build more transports) could probably put you over in just a couple turns.

3 turns, actually...

[Chemical Ollie]

Only 7th place on my highscore list, but still a great game. Thanks Alexman for setting it up and especially for emulating PTW for us poor Scandinavians who are still waiting for the release!

Gallic Swordsmen rock!

[nbarclay]

Originally posted by Olaf HÃ¥rfagre


3 turns, actually...

Yeah, but did you use the force mix I suggested?

Actually, with all the armies available, three four-unit MI armies and the rest stand-alone MAs would have made an excellent force mix. That would have provided enough MI power to withstand any plausible AI counterattack against the initial landing, and while MA armies are more survivable than individual MAs, individual MAs chew up ground faster against infantry (pre-radio in the case of PtW) because each MA gets a separate attack. Depending on terrain and city spacing, that might have made it possible to achieve victory a turn sooner.

[Jaybe]

Originally posted by nbarclay
I find these proposals to trade away a valuable tech for the tiny bit of world map information the AI has and I don't yet maddening. ...

I don't let it get my goat. They are obviously asking for charity. I will either press ESC, see what they will offer if I try to sell it to them, or (once in a while) actually give it to them.

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by nbarclay


Yeah, but did you use the force mix I suggested? ...

I made 2 MA armies to act as nutcrackers on metropolis cities. I also shipped 4 MI armies to defend cities and stop resistance. The rest was individual MA plus 10 artillery.

[badams52]

Originally posted by Arrian
See, there is method to my madness!

-Arrian, happiness nazi (is that possible?)

I sit corrected. I just thought all wonders only affected your continent. I think Sistene's is the only exception.

[badams52]

Originally posted by Olaf HÃ¥rfagre
This is kinda old news, but I never have had this many armies in a game before. The reason is this:

I already had the Military Academy in place when I found out the city could also build the Iron Works - pumping out armies every 5th turn now.

I almost always wait till I know which city of mine will be the biggest producer (I was pleasantly surpirsed how close the IW city was to my FP) then I build the MA in that city, so I very commonly get armies in 4-6 per turn chunks.

[badams52]

Originally posted by nbarclay
I find these proposals to trade away a valuable tech for the tiny bit of world map information the AI has and I don't yet maddening.

I just renegotiate the deal and usually 1 gold is all that's needed to see his map.

[badams52]

Originally posted by nbarclay
Actually, with all the armies available, three four-unit MI armies and the rest stand-alone MAs would have made an excellent force mix. That would have provided enough MI power to withstand any plausible AI counterattack against the initial landing, and while MA armies are more survivable than individual MAs, individual MAs chew up ground faster against infantry (pre-radio in the case of PtW) because each MA gets a separate attack. Depending on terrain and city spacing, that might have made it possible to achieve victory a turn sooner.

I'm still working on explicit examples, but I believe the AI will never attack an army of 4 MIs or 4 MAs with all it's hp unless he has armies himself. The percentage of victory will be too low for him to consider even starting the attack against the army. So counterattack will be non-existant. Theseus called it "combat avoidance," but I like to think of it as "defense by avoidance."

So I would personally not make the 4-MI armies and just build more MA armies for defense.

[badams52]

Originally posted by Olaf HÃ¥rfagre
Only 7th place on my highscore list, but still a great game. Thanks Alexman for setting it up and especially for emulating PTW for us poor Scandinavians who are still waiting for the release!

Gallic Swordsmen rock!

What level/size map do you usually play? I've found that the larger the map, the higher the score (unless you're doing the diety, tiny map conquest game). Kind of a negative for me since I usually don't play anything larger than standard. Which means once I finish this game, this will be one of my highest scores.

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by badams52


What level/size map do you usually play? I've found that the larger the map, the higher the score (unless you're doing the diety, tiny map conquest game). Kind of a negative for me since I usually don't play anything larger than standard. Which means once I finish this game, this will be one of my highest scores.

I normally play emperor but get my backside kicked quite often. When I want to make sure to win I play on monarch. I seldom finish any games however, so many great games have been forgotten and never reached the hall of fame. Since I got my new computer (2.5 GHz, 512 MB RDRAM) I played a lot on huge and large maps. My highscore was on a tiny map on regent level, where all 4 civs were on the same tiny island. I conquered the world in 2700 BC something and got 14400 score. My best "real" game was about 6500 score.

[Chemical Ollie]

Originally posted by badams52


I almost always wait till I know which city of mine will be the biggest producer (I was pleasantly surpirsed how close the IW city was to my FP) then I build the MA in that city, so I very commonly get armies in 4-6 per turn chunks.

I had the FP in the same spot as you, and the new capital north of Rome.

[Chemical Ollie]

Perhaps I should try a little challenge, to take the Gallic Swordsman to an ultimate test? If I go back 5 turns to the autosave, I am not yet in war with America. I could send my transports home, disband all the MA and build only Gallic Swordsmen in all cities. With 80+ GS in the first wave, and 60 GS airlifted every turn after a bridghead is established, I should eventually be able to overrun the American infantry.