Does slow play have you fuming?

[Chris 62]

I won't play some people without a timer, but against friends, it's not needed.

You know that Rich, you should see some of the games I played in that took forever because of one or two slowpokes.

I remember one game where this genius was arguing borders for 20 minutes on turn 10.

Playing slow is for SP, unless you find suckers...er, players willing to put up with it.

Oh, and on AH, nothing you say to him is considered confidential, he will link to other sites, quote private conversations, anything to embarris you.
It's his way, he can't help himself.

[Deity Dude]

Originally posted by rah


And after playing with you a few times DD, I would rate you slightly slower than the average. (in all fairness, our group is usually very quick so any judgement is relative)

RAH

I wouldn't argue with slightly slower then average. I would disagree with being nominated for the all-slow team

RAH what about a timer that you set at 1 hour. I havn't heard about anybody needing more then an hour and at it has 2 benefits.

1) People could factually see how long others are taking (it always seems longer when you ar stairing at the screen then when you are moving) instead of specualting about it in the forums.

2) You can tell if the game freezes and what kind of lags players are experiencing..

[rah]

If it doesn't accomplish anything of value, why do it?
It's system overhead that actually slows down the game performance. Not much, but every little bit adds up till it's intolerable.

But I'm more pleased to see that you'd agree that you're slightly slower than average. If a person is never willing to admit that they're slow every now an then, there is ZERO chance that they will every attempt to speed up because if there's no problem, no reason to do anything different.
Heck, every now and then I'll have a slow spell too, but hopefully I'll recognize it and try to do something to speed it up even if it might mean that I didn't "MAXIMIZE" something. ie. If I have a specific caravan that is demanded by a city, and I forget what city it was. (it does happen after a FEW drinks )
Unless I'm only moving a couple of units that turn, I'll just press the space bar for that unit and check in between turns to remind myself where I should have been sending it. The thought of opening the trade advisor during my turn is repugnant to me.

RAH

AND, If I go to the bathroom, go outside, have a smoke, grab a beer and come back and the same person is STILL moving. I don't need a timer to say he's a slow player

[deity]

I think DD's idea of long timer is a good idea.
At least it saves using a stop watch!

And, sorry Rah, but when my mythical slow play was created as a fact some two or three years ago I started to believe then that it might be true so I did all I could to speed up. I don't no if I'm quicker now and I still dispute the myth. Therefore, from your perspective I have tried and this is the result. What else can I do? I'm incapable of playing faster. It's just stirrers like AH and Markus that perpetuate the myth for trolling and other strategic purposes...

[markusf]

Originally posted by deity
I think DD's idea of long timer is a good idea.
At least it saves using a stop watch!

And, sorry Rah, but when my mythical slow play was created as a fact some two or three years ago I started to believe then that it might be true so I did all I could to speed up. I don't no if I'm quicker now and I still dispute the myth. Therefore, from your perspective I have tried and this is the result. What else can I do? I'm incapable of playing faster. It's just stirrers like AH and Markus that perpetuate the myth for trolling and other strategic purposes...

I posted how long you took per turns.. according to when my saves where written to disk..

So for tonights session you have no problem agreeing to a 20 minute timer since according to you, your never that slow.

[Alexander's Horse]

Okay, I played a session of this game that Deity and Markus are in and I did not find Deity markedly slower than any other player in the game.

Not talking about Deity here on what I saw in that session - but I do think mass declaration of war is a good way to deal with slow players. Its kind of democratic and I imagine people will quickly get the message.

Maybe everyone should declare war if the slow player refuses a timer?

One annoying thing was I just managed to whip the Romans into shape and was about to take a city off the Spanish and the bloody session ended

If you take the Romans back now Raz you'll find they are in Monarchy, have a cash surplus of 60, every city is producing fighting units and I have sold every unnecessary improvement

[markusf]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
Okay, I played a session of this game that Deity and Markus are in and I did not find Deity markedly slower than any other player in the game.

Not talking about Deity here on what I saw in that session - but I do think mass declaration of war is a good way to deal with slow players. Its kind of democratic and I imagine people will quickly get the message.

Maybe everyone should declare war if the slow player refuses a timer?

One annoying thing was I just managed to whip the Romans into shape and was about to take a city off the Spanish and the bloody session ended

If you take the Romans back now Raz you'll find they are in Monarchy, have a cash surplus of 60, every city is producing fighting units and I have sold every unnecessary improvement

I was impressed, he played a LOT faster this session. We got through something like 10 turns in less playing time then we had last time.

I destroyed every city improvements in dieties cities facing me, plus I started to land invasion forces. Hopefully it won't be long now.

[Alexander's Horse]

Trouble is Markusf, if it takes 3 or 4 of you to bring the big fella down then I'm afraid the game kudos goes to Deity

Well done D

[markusf]

Originally posted by Alexander's Horse
Trouble is Markusf, if it takes 3 or 4 of you to bring the big fella down then I'm afraid the game kudos goes to Deity

Well done D

LOL Diety used all his units to attack winzity, others took advantage and grabed a empty city of dieties, and as you saw the romans where the only ones who could even attack, and they sent something like 2 units at him.

[Alexander's Horse]

Bah! the Romans can't get at Deity. They don't have the techs!

Anyway I think now that Markus has tanks all the civs will have to gang up on him. Deity is a spent force but Markus is a threat to all the other civs!!!!

Don't let him fool you!!! If Deity goes down Markus'll turn on you one by one whilst he has a tech advantage!!!

[deity]

Originally posted by markusf
LOL Diety used all his units to attack winzity, others took advantage and grabed a empty city of dieties, and as you saw the romans where the only ones who could even attack, and they sent something like 2 units at him.

Rubbish Markus. Dangime's icq's to me prove that you guys are trying to tie up my forces in the West so that you can get in on the East. Your spy invasion would have failed if I'd been able to move those defenders over to the EAST. Horsie is right. Dang is mad attacking me cos in the end I'm all that stands between Markus and world domination. It is quite insidious how Dang and Markus have allied to attack me East and West in a supposed diplo game when they haven't even met in game!

But hell, I'm having fun and other than Markus and Dang's spy/diplo pillaging I've won the battle honours and we are up to 1780+ now...

BOTH of Markus Battleships sunk from just TWO subs!! I had more if that wasn't enough. One was a vet. He seems to have given up on coastal assault - not one shot fired but he did manage to land a few Armour, most dead now He's been saying it's my last session since Zylka was playing in BC times!

I think I'm proving my point; and thanks AH, glad you could see first hand what was up here.

And my speed this week was exactly the same last week EXCEPT it didn't hang!

You really owe me an apolgy Markus. That is real muck raking stuff to keep going on about my speed. All your calculations were flawed by lag and outright hangs.

I played exactly the same today and even had MORE units.

[Hydey]

stop talking about the game and get back to slagging deity

[War4ever]

your point

[Alexander's Horse]

I think the point is Deity is the superior player in that game and all this slow play talk is just about detracting from his achievement and putting him off his game.

[markusf]

Originally posted by deity


Rubbish Markus. Dangime's icq's to me prove that you guys are trying to tie up my forces in the West so that you can get in on the East. Your spy invasion would have failed if I'd been able to move those defenders over to the EAST. Horsie is right. Dang is mad attacking me cos in the end I'm all that stands between Markus and world domination. It is quite insidious how Dang and Markus have allied to attack me East and West in a supposed diplo game when they haven't even met in game!

But hell, I'm having fun and other than Markus and Dang's spy/diplo pillaging I've won the battle honours and we are up to 1780+ now...

BOTH of Markus Battleships sunk from just TWO subs!! I had more if that wasn't enough. One was a vet. He seems to have given up on coastal assault - not one shot fired but he did manage to land a few Armour, most dead now He's been saying it's my last session since Zylka was playing in BC times!

I think I'm proving my point; and thanks AH, glad you could see first hand what was up here.

And my speed this week was exactly the same last week EXCEPT it didn't hang!

You really owe me an apolgy Markus. That is real muck raking stuff to keep going on about my speed. All your calculations were flawed by lag and outright hangs.

I played exactly the same today and even had MORE units.

we played double the turns this session in 2/3 the time. Your turns where closer to 5 minutes this time.. maybe its because you had less cities to work with..

Ya dagmine must be real hard to deal with. He doesn't have a single offensive unit. face it you didn't know i had armour, you didn't think i would land on forests and knock out your fortifications. And now you got green to declare war on me which has more cities then you and dagmine combined Of course it doesn't matter that i destroyed all your improvements, razed a city to the ground, and knocked out a good portion of your army and all your major cities are shrinking by one a turn. Nope deity is winning no matter what.