To Mikes or Not to Mikes

[Ming]

I've seen some really stupid things before here at Apolyton...
But he takes first prize

[Dank]

I told him that he was gonna get banned for that crap......

[Eyes_Of_Night]

HAHAHA!! What an idiot. He preaches about how this is just a game when he sits there and talks about life and its meaning on a forum. Serious mental problems there.

[Hydey]

If he didn't want Ming to get involved why didn't he move the conversation away from the forums ?

[Alexander's Horse]

Originally posted by Budthepoet
if you shall assume such comments as a sign of intelegence,

[StrategicKingMi]

Well, eyes, what a stupid statement you made. Obviously , the understanding of investment principles are far beyond your comprehension. For your sake, I sure hope you have a money manager so my tax dollars wont go to support you when you blow all your money.
The only thing that matters in Civ, is how many units or caravans or city improvements you produce in a turn. If you are not trading in a caravan, where you get 250 gold later in the game, assuming a fair start and fair land, then you will simply not have the assests to keep up with a traders production.
The Math:
250 payoff from a caravan... cost of the van is 30 resources or 75 gold. Thus you profit 175 gold or 90 resources and that city produces something every 2 turns. Spend an additional 50, assuming no gunpowder or feudalism, then it produces something every turn.
Now, to show your stupidity, how do you plan to build all thoose crusaders and ironclads in a quanity greater then a trader?
Obviously, you cant. If you were playing with yourself (with your pants zipped up) and one civ in a hot seat game, traded and one did not, assuming exact same skill level of the player, then the trader will always win a fair start.
END OF STORY.....

[StrategicKingMi]

Maybe, it is you "who is blaming his tool" and choose to play 1 x 1 deity cause you suck on a real game like 2 x 2 king. I am so sick and tired of hearing how much more difficult 1 x 1 deity is. Simply, it is so much easier then 2 x 2 king because the possible problems that might arise are extremely limited and for the most part confined to just predetermined computer restrictions.
Some of the things you dont have to worry about in 1 x 1 deity are:
1) units moving 4 spaces (non-road or river)
2) large numbers of units falling upon your citys
3) human cleaverness on a strategic scale

[Scouse Gits]

I'll buy (1) above - but never the others ...

SG[1]

[Dank]

I wonder what bud has got to say about it.....Bud!!....oh thats right.......BANNED!!!!!!!!!......hehehe.....sorry bud....can't resist

[Deity Dude]

Originally posted by StrategicKingMi
I am so sick and tired of hearing how much more difficult 1 x 1 deity is.

Next he's gonna say he can beat anybody in a best of three at 1x1x deity. Oh wait, we already did that one.

[DrSpike]

Yeah it's so much easier.......that's why the 2x2x king players wont/cant play it.

[atawa]

Originally posted by DrSpike


Yeah it's so much easier.......that's why the 2x2x king players wont/cant play it.

2x2x king players can play deity , first beat me for the first time before saying something ridiculous like that

We all played 1x1x deity in SP before we started playing online so we know the basics.

But how many 1x1x deity players can hold their own in a 2x2x king match?


Both 1x1x Deity and 2x2x King have their own charactaristics, witch makes them very different games, most people only play their own 'superior' setting while some people just enjoy playing all settings, thus enjoying all aspects that makes this game great

Btw Strate, didnt caravans cost 50 shields

[Smash]

I've played a fair amount of all settings and of course 2x2 king games are easier!..yes you are playing humans but with those settings you can have over 100 cities by 1ad(certainly 50) without having to worry a thing about managing and controlling unrest.I can't tell you how many times you see all the top 5 cities with no flag flying.That irks me.

The least you can do is play deity.The game is at its best at deity in sp.No reason I can think of why it wouldn't be so in mp.Plus there is one less hassle with even #s of settlers.

btw-emperor is an under rated and underplayed level for mp.

[Deity Dude]

Originally posted by Smash

btw-emperor is an under rated and underplayed level for mp.

I like the extra settler with deity.

[atawa]

Originally posted by Smash
I've played a fair amount of all settings and of course 2x2 king games are easier!..yes you are playing humans but with those settings you can have over 100 cities by 1ad(certainly 50) without having to worry a thing about managing and controlling unrest.I can't tell you how many times you see all the top 5 cities with no flag flying.That irks me.

So its easyer to have an oponent with 50 city's too?
The problem with king is that its not half as easy to defend then on deity.

The least you can do is play deity.The game is at its best at deity in sp.No reason I can think of why it wouldn't be so in mp.Plus there is one less hassle with even #s of settlers.

In SP you play AI , off course the game is at its best on deity.

btw-emperor is an under rated and underplayed level for mp.

Yup but people tend to play either king or deity, look me up sometimes when you want to play emp btw