History PBEM

[Pap1723]

Russia no longer wants to be in, or dealing with the League of Nations. Due to considerations in the Motherland, we need to focus our energies on assimilating all of our territory under one rule in the Russian government. We have made a pact with all of the countries under our control, and we call it the Warsaw Pact.

Pap

[Scott F]

It is unfortunate that the French and Russian fates have been so quickly sealed.

[The ANZAC]

Britain still needs to deliberate on this issue.

[Cyrion]

Scott ???

[Scott F]

The German government is conferring with its representatives in the various European capitals and is still awaiting responses to its revolutionary peace initiative.

[Cyrion]

The Italian Empire would like to agree with the German proposal, but seeing that 2 Nations already rejected it we fear it wouldn't realistic! Nonetheless, Italy will commit to Peace!!!

The Italian government wishes to establish strong economic and diplomatic ties with the glorious German Reich. Freight is already on its way to Germany.

[Cyrion]

New Leader for Austria-Hungary

Darius 871 will be playing A-H for Soundwave till he returns (if he still want A-H when he comes back!!)!!

So I won't have to lead Italy AND Austria-Hungary on the path to glory...

So welcome Darius!!

[sas]

Darius in this game as well....

Welcome !!

[sas]

France is commited to peace.

We only feel that Germanys proposition is unrealistic and will only be a so called "paper agreement". Why do we need this kind of agreement when we allready have established the League of Nations.

Allthough Russia have decided to step out of the League, France wish to maintain a good relationship with Russia. Russia should try to be a part of Europe, not move away from it. This is a sad develeopment indeed.

-Pierre Rosseau-

[Darius871]

Thanks all. I've gruelingly read through the entire thread up to now and I've pieced most of the diplomacy together, and it is very fascinating indeed.

However, the new Secretary-General, Jordanas von Riechwehr, makes one of his first actions be to make the current situation in European diplomacy more organized. Therefore, he needs some clarification on four issues:

1) It seems all territorial disputes have been settled, is that correct? It looks as though France took what it wanted and now we are simply awaiting the British conquest of their half. Have the Italian concerns been ignored? What has the decision been on Spain? A border picture would be helpful, but you can just list cities and I can do it.

2) Although I agree with France that it is effectively useless, what is the current situation on the German proposal? Specifically, a list of those who have directly agreed to it.

3) Who are active members of the League of Nations, and who are not? I believe it is everyone but Russia, but domeone clarify.

4) I notice that I am in control of Libya. How was this aquired from the Turks, by payment? We obviously aren't at war.

Once I am better informed I can instruct the SG and changes can take place.

On another note, can someone simply post here all updated files that have come about since the original? I am operating with the original CivFan download and need these files to play here. A brief description of the changes would be helpful, but not necessary. Thanks.

[sas]

To answer some of your questions Darius:

What has the decision been on Spain?

The decition was made after negotiations between Britian and France. This picture shows what we agreed on:

Who are active members of the League of Nations?

Every country except Russia, that pulled out of the League recently.

I notice that I am in control of Libya. How was this aquired from the Turks, by payment? We obviously aren't at war.

French intelligence can tell you that it was bought from The Ottoman Empire.

what is the current situation on the German proposal? Specifically, a list of those who have directly agreed to it.

Ottoman Empire, Italy and Germany has agreed to the proposal.

-Sas-

[The ANZAC]

Have you DLed some of the files in this thread? Once you get those, it should be enough. Though there might be others...

[Darius871]

Thanks sas, that's all I need to know. Also, if anyone has made any sort of private agreements with soundwave, PM me anytime (except for sas; he already did).

My first order of business:

Aw, crap. I wrote an artfully convincing proposal of about 500 words about ten minutes ago, and then my brother kicked me off to check his mail and didn't warn me!


After pummeling him repeatedly, I came back here and I'm far too embittered to write the whole damn thing again. The far less persuasive gist of it is that I (not as the SG, but as the leader of Austria-Hungary) am appalled by how ignored Italy has been in both the Spanish and Cretan controversies. They had no say whatsoever, and no power in Europe deserves such an injustice. Therefore I offer the following summed-up proposal:

1) The Italians are allowed complete control of all three of the major Belearic Islands, and have the right to build fortresses there for their garrisons.

2) Like my predecessor, I agree that a Franco-British domination of Spain is preferable, because their modernity and democracy is in the best interests of the Spanish people. I also agree that Italy has no direct historical claim to Spain. However, Italy still is the second-nearest power to Spain and it is a good idea to have another European presence in the country if only to check the power of Britain and France there. I do not even directly demand, but I rather only suggest that France, in good conscience, try to make up for her misdeeds by ceding Italy Valencia, a demand that is after all smaller than the Italians wanted in the first place.

3) Although Italy has no direct historical tie to Spain, Cyrion is correct that indeed they do have one to Crete. Britain is to immediately cede it to Italy as soon as an administrative force can arrive there.


I need the opinions of Italy, France, and Britain on this proposal. These demands are very small, and I can't see why they would be much of a problem, considering that they are far, far less than even the Italians wanted. I am not prepared to go to war agianst those who refuse this proposal. However, I am willing to enact strict economic embargoes on those countries, as well as just having a generally negative attitude toward them. That is insignificant at first, but even just a small negative alignment can be morphed into an enemy by a future unrelated conflict.

Regardless, consider this not a military threat which results in an acquisition of land. Rather consider it, as I do, as an opportunity to redeem yourselves for the wholly unjust treatment of your kind neighbor Italy.

On other matters, I agree to the German proposal.

Also:

Have you DLed some of the files in this thread? Once you get those, it should be enough. Though there might be others...

That's the problem. I thought maybe the .scn was changed as well, but I'll assume not and use the posted files. So that problem's solved.

Here are screenshots of what I envision:

[Darius871]

Just look how little you guys lose, and how much you get! This really isn't a big deal:

[St Leo]

Although Spain is a Hapsburg Country, we of the Austrian-Hungarian Empire, think its better not to stretch our resources when Britian and France are closer and can continue Spanish well being.

It's a Bourbon country.
/me ducks