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  • First I would like to mention that the SG has acknowledged all of our aquisitions and given his blessing.

    Second, as for the Balearic Islands and Valencia, I will not come to a decision until the SG comes back.

    Third, I will not cede Crete as it has routes to the Greek people that I have liberated and it has been disenfranchised from Italy as they lost control long ago to the Ottomans.

    Any force trying to enter Cretan waters or land on Crete will be warned and then if not moved, will be attacked.
    Georgi Nikolai Anzyakov, Commander Grand Northern Front, Red Front Democracy Game

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    • Although Spain is a Hapsburg Country
      It's a Bourbon country.
      Note that my predecessor said that, not I, and I agree that at this point Spain does not have enough of a historical tie to the country to make it a pivotal argument.

      I will not cede Crete as it has routes to the Greek people
      Come on. I understand that opinion, but a strategic link to Greece there should not seem important in a time of peace. An Italian Crete can pose no threat to your influence there since it will not be destroying anything. And if somehow, somewhere, you were at war with Italy, your awe-inspiring naval power would inevitably both protect your shipping and also allow you to take Crete easily.

      On points one and 2, there is a problem about the Secretary General:

      I will be leaving for a while, the account will remain active, so i'll be back here i hope anywhere from 2 weeks, to 6 months
      I had assumed as the leader of the Austro-Hungarians I would assume Soundwave's position as SG, and therefore his opinions on past matters could be changed until he is back. I already consider the former SG's opinion nil, but if the others disagree, then I suppose we shall have another vote on the SG.

      Also, I haven't been able to speak to Cyrion yet, but assuming he's willing would you accept money and units for some or all of the conditions?
      Unbelievable!

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      • To clear up the Secretary Generals proposition:

        After a series of secret talks with the leader of Italy, we came to an agreement about Spain. Italy was not left in the dark so to speak. France wanted a continued good relations with Italy.

        French and Italian diplomats discussed the "Spanish Issue" at some lenghts and struck a deal. This deal have been kept a secret, but now France feels it is in the interest of Italy and France to make the deal public. So there is really not nessesary to talk about this matter any further.

        The agreement in short:
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        " France has been willing to make a compensation for the lack of any Italian cities in Spain. France have payed 400 in cash and gifted one Destroyer."
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        -Pierre Rosseau-
        Last edited by sas; May 5, 2002, 01:34.
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        • Wow, that was a good deal for Italy. I couldn't understand how Valencia could have been that valuable to you, sas, but I suppose that settles the issue. This brings the realization that in private France has been civil, and I commend it. As for Crete, I don't think it is pivotal enough of a posession to argue about. If Italy is willing to offer Britain money for the island she can anytime, but that will be their business.

          I am just glad that Italy has not been as ignored as they had seemed when the Spanish contoversy came about. Let it be known that both as the Austro-Hungarian and SG that in any other situation I will do my best to speak in suppot of anyone else who can claim an aggrieved status in troubles of the future.
          Unbelievable!

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          • make your move Scott !
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            • I am waiting for responses from various PMs and emails.

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              • I'm back!!!

                Hi to all, i hope you dont mind, but we i get in my new house can i have my civs back, from the pbems that i was in....

                Thanks Cyrion.

                Also Aussie/Brisbane is great its summer all round, and i have been at the beach all the time and going to all the theme parks, like a real tourist!

                But i will be in the new house in a week, so carry on till then Darius! And thanks!

                (btw i'm so happy to be back, normal life was getting kinda boring! )
                "Whoever wants peace, be prepared for war"- Soundwave

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                • Good. It's kind of hard to get into a game when so much has happened already. Still hope to get a few turns in though, still waiting on scott.
                  Unbelievable!

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                  • Scott ....

                    I know you're waiting for some PMs, but this delay is getting way too long now.

                    Please make your move...
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                    • Small OOC post...

                      First of all, thanks to Darius: your concern about the fate of the Italian Nation has been really appreciated!!

                      If only your predecessor had been so perceptive (read that, Soundwave ?? ), the situation would have been much easier for Italy!!

                      But the French PM, the remarkable Monsieur Rosseau (always wondered about that name: at first I thought it was Rousseau!!), has been really comprehensive and fair and laid the first stones for an eternal Friendship between France and Italy.

                      As for the relations with Great-Britain, they might be not exactly cordial right now, but there is no bad feelings from Italy towards them!!

                      So thanks again Darius!! and I hope to play with you in the next few turns (BTW, I'm sure Soundwave hasn't got a connexion yet, because we haven't read the traditionnal "XXX, your turn..." yet... ) or in other games!!!


                      And then, welcome back Soundwave!! So it seems the "drop-bears" haven't eaten you yet... And you haven't been run over by a drunken Queenslander... (oups, I might get into trouble with somme of the Aussies... that is, only those from THAT State...).

                      As you noticed, I have been too lazy to try to correct all your management mistakes in the pbems ( ) and left that mighty task to other "brave souls"...
                      Ankh-Morpork, we have an orangutan...
                      Discworld Scenario: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...8&pagenumber=1
                      POMARJ Scenario:http://www.apolyton.com/forums/showt...8&pagenumber=1
                      LOST LEGIONS Scenario:http://www.apolyton.com/forums/showt...hreadid=169464

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                      • Short Break...

                        Sorry guys, but from tomorrow evening I won't have access to a computer till Monday evening next week!!

                        So, if my turn comes before, IF you really can't wait until I come back, just let the AI play it...

                        But of course I would prefer to play it myself as soon as I come back!!!

                        So, if you have to wait because of it, sorry... (well, actually I'm not THAT sorry, because I'm off to Scotland to taste a few whiskies and pints of bitter... )
                        Ankh-Morpork, we have an orangutan...
                        Discworld Scenario: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...8&pagenumber=1
                        POMARJ Scenario:http://www.apolyton.com/forums/showt...8&pagenumber=1
                        LOST LEGIONS Scenario:http://www.apolyton.com/forums/showt...hreadid=169464

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                        • Thanks for the appreciation, but it still didn't really get anywhere. Just trying to make a few crookeds straight, to show that I am willing to continue to do so in any future dispute.

                          You sure you want the AI to play, though? If you're surely not able to play the turn, you should at least have a neutral human player so your production doesn't get all screwed up and you don't find a bunch of units jammed in some innavigable mountains.
                          Unbelievable!

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                          • Darius: you are right, it's better if the AI is not allowed to play...

                            But I hope the game won't be too fast and that my turn won't come before I turn back (actually it's only 5 days... )
                            Ankh-Morpork, we have an orangutan...
                            Discworld Scenario: http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...8&pagenumber=1
                            POMARJ Scenario:http://www.apolyton.com/forums/showt...8&pagenumber=1
                            LOST LEGIONS Scenario:http://www.apolyton.com/forums/showt...hreadid=169464

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                            • Originally posted by Soundwave
                              Also Aussie/Brisbane is great its summer all round, and i have been at the beach all the time and going to all the theme parks, like a real tourist!
                              It's snowing here today, so there
                              "I would rather have a German division in front of me than a French one behind me." -- General George S. Patton
                              "Guinness sucks!" -- Me

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                              • Italy: No hard feelings either: we just want Crete
                                Georgi Nikolai Anzyakov, Commander Grand Northern Front, Red Front Democracy Game

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