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[The ANZAC]

London Times

Alliance Between Russia and Great Britain

Today PM Disraeli and Tsar Nicholas II signed a alliance today. they hope to keep in close friendship and contact and will help eachother in need.

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Spain- I agree, I would want only 1 or 2 cities.
Greece- I will stay neutral in this matter
Dardanelles and Bosporus Straits- I agree
Status of Land Treaty- I agree
League of Nations- I agree

Me agreeing is my vote, as for that Anzac can update it and put in the votes for and against.

EF II

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Frances response to The Disraeli Proposal

1. France expansion in Spain should be limited to northern areas and British to west and far south with the rest for discussion later

In prinsipal i agree to this porposal, but i still maintain that only Britain, France and to some extent Italy has any rights in the area. I fint it unacceptable and ridiculous that countries such as Austria should have any rights there.

2. Ottoman Empire should withdraw from Greece and Crete and leave to British control. In compensation, Britain will trade with Ottoman Empire and pay in installments a reasonable fee

I agree. Greece is British territory, and should remain so in the future.

3. Dardanelles and Bosporus Straits are open to all free traffic of Ottoman Empire and Russia. Russia shall not be restricted passage anytime, the same for the Ottoman Empire

I agree.

4. Status of Land, excluding Neutrals, but including Spain until further notice, after these proposals are met, shall remain as they are for a period of 5 years, afterwhich, the Status Treaty shall come up for renewal with all parties involved

I agree.

5. A League of Nations shall be formed out of Geneva, Switzerland and a secretary-general elected immediately. The SG may be replaced by a vote of no confidence, where at least two members should support the vote at first for new elections to take place. It is overridable by a majority vote of the league.

I agree. But we have to further discuss the mandate of the secretary-general.

-Pierre Rousseau-

[The ANZAC]

London Times

Revision to 1st Proposal

1. France expansion in Spain should be limited to northern areas and British to west and far south with small south-western area possibly to Italy

The Italics are the change. The Austrian Empire does not have a sphere of influence that extends this far. And they are getting Rumania, so they should feel cheated.

Now with this change, who supports the Spain proposal. Also, once all seven nations sign it it becomes ratified, so become a signatory nation!

As to the Greek question: I will accept Crete (I thought you had it already, turkey ) For mainland Greece, I will pay money, maybe give a tech or two, and help industrialize your nation to a certain extent for those two cities. Would the Ottoman Empire accept this?

PM Disraeli

[Cyrion]

Italy doesn't agree with the propositions mentionned up to now!!

A counter proposal will be offered as soon as the Foreign Ministry is back from his week-end of wine-tasting...

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While the intentions are good, France cannot accept the suggestion as is stands right now. Italy would get the biggest cities and the most fertile land.

Here is Frances counter proposal:

Britain: Cadiz, Lisbon, Salamanca and Sanatandar
France: Madrid, Barcelona, Zaragoza and Valladolid
Italy: Valencia and Seville

[The ANZAC]

Great Britain agrees with Turkey and France's plans for partition. Italy should not get as large a slice as France or Britain because it is not as large of a country.

Italy doesn't agree with the propositions mentionned up to now!!

A counter proposal will be offered as soon as the Foreign Ministry is back from his week-end of wine-tasting...

Italy: You agree to none of the points in the Disraeli Proposal? I would think a League of Nations or Straits would at least be acceptable


Also everyone, let us try to get a League of Nations, Land Status Treaty, and Straits Passage ratified: we still need 3 more signatures: Russia, Germany, Italy

[The ANZAC]

Also Turkey: How does 400 gold sound for those 2? Remember you are getting a tech or two and British trade rights.

[The ANZAC]

A destroyer, but no battleship, but we will give 400, destroyer, tech, and trade rights.

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(Damn, i go to sleep and miss all this! )

Well The Austrian and Ottoman Empire have explained terms and Austro-Hungarian Empire is to annex Bulgaria for the right price form the Ottoman Empire, and the rest of Rumanian will be occupied next month, in the Spain matter I support that Britian should have the biggest slice because Portugal loves Britian, and so will all of Spain for they will love the first taste of democracy.

BTW- You have to conquer Bacelona to get rid of the Border Posts in the mountians.... and Britian, if you conquer Cadiz you get rid if the border posts next to Gib.

Also, we must get Italy's opinion on the proposals (he's drinking LOL)... so it would be funny to ask, a cyrion?

And i will now agree to Greece.

-SW

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Heres the New Rules: i edited the Yanistar and all the units, and a big review, thats Cyrion for pointing out the mistakes, so now there should be nothing wrong, and about the ottomans and the biplane its true, they dont get no fighters, or medium tanks, turkey was neutral in ww2 and the thing is kinda historical....

Btw-Anzac you'll like the Anzac's! Its very historical for that!

[Pap1723]

Russia starts the build up of their industrial infrastructure. Nothing military took place.

Pap

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Anzac, Soundwave: This squabble over Spain looks mighty familiar...

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I know lol, now we wait for what the French empire will do in Spain!