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  • #46
    Italy would get the biggest cities and the most fertile land.
    Yes maybe my offer would benefit Italy too much. However, in your offer France would get all the major cities. I suggest that Madrid would be given to Britain.
    Also, the Ottoman Empire demands that Portugal will be left neutral.

    Our proposal:

    Britain: Cadiz, Madrid, Salamanca and Sanatandar
    France: Barcelona, Zaragoza and Valladolid
    Italy: Valencia and Seville

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    • #47
      Great Britain agrees with Turkey and France's plans for partition. Italy should not get as large a slice as France or Britain because it is not as large of a country.

      Italy doesn't agree with the propositions mentionned up to now!!

      A counter proposal will be offered as soon as the Foreign Ministry is back from his week-end of wine-tasting...
      Italy: You agree to none of the points in the Disraeli Proposal? I would think a League of Nations or Straits would at least be acceptable


      Also everyone, let us try to get a League of Nations, Land Status Treaty, and Straits Passage ratified: we still need 3 more signatures: Russia, Germany, Italy
      Georgi Nikolai Anzyakov, Commander Grand Northern Front, Red Front Democracy Game

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      • #48
        Also Turkey: How does 400 gold sound for those 2? Remember you are getting a tech or two and British trade rights.
        Georgi Nikolai Anzyakov, Commander Grand Northern Front, Red Front Democracy Game

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        • #49
          Also Turkey: How does 400 gold sound for those 2? Remember you are getting a tech or two and British trade rights.
          400 sounds reasonable but we would like to make a counter-offer: Give us a battleship and a destroyer, the techs and trade rights and Greece is yours.

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          • #50
            A destroyer, but no battleship, but we will give 400, destroyer, tech, and trade rights.
            Georgi Nikolai Anzyakov, Commander Grand Northern Front, Red Front Democracy Game

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            • #51
              (Damn, i go to sleep and miss all this! )

              Well The Austrian and Ottoman Empire have explained terms and Austro-Hungarian Empire is to annex Bulgaria for the right price form the Ottoman Empire, and the rest of Rumanian will be occupied next month, in the Spain matter I support that Britian should have the biggest slice because Portugal loves Britian, and so will all of Spain for they will love the first taste of democracy.

              BTW- You have to conquer Bacelona to get rid of the Border Posts in the mountians.... and Britian, if you conquer Cadiz you get rid if the border posts next to Gib.

              Also, we must get Italy's opinion on the proposals (he's drinking LOL)... so it would be funny to ask, a cyrion?

              And i will now agree to Greece.

              -SW
              Last edited by Soundwave; April 13, 2002, 18:45.
              "Whoever wants peace, be prepared for war"- Soundwave

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              • #52
                Heres the New Rules: i edited the Yanistar and all the units, and a big review, thats Cyrion for pointing out the mistakes, so now there should be nothing wrong, and about the ottomans and the biplane its true, they dont get no fighters, or medium tanks, turkey was neutral in ww2 and the thing is kinda historical....

                Btw-Anzac you'll like the Anzac's! Its very historical for that!
                Last edited by Soundwave; April 18, 2002, 00:50.
                "Whoever wants peace, be prepared for war"- Soundwave

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                • #53
                  Russia starts the build up of their industrial infrastructure. Nothing military took place.

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                  • #54
                    Anzac, Soundwave: This squabble over Spain looks mighty familiar...

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                    • #55
                      I know lol, now we wait for what the French empire will do in Spain!
                      "Whoever wants peace, be prepared for war"- Soundwave

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                      • #56
                        The French Empire continues to upgrade its allready impressive industrial capabillities.

                        The French navy is holding a naval excercise south of Marseille. Foreign observers is welcome as long as they dont disturb the excercise.

                        Honoring the The Disraeli Proposal France have captured Barcelona and Zaragoza. The Spanish people welcomes the French troops. This might be the begining of a time of stabillity.

                        In a preemptive strike against possible rebels in Bern, French forces have put the city under french administration.

                        -Pierre Rousseau-
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                        • #57
                          And to those that where conserned about the wealth France would get from the capturing of Spanish Cities, there where no wealth at all. 0 (zero) plundered...
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                          • #58
                            The Great Sultan is pleased to hear about Frances positive progress in Spain. I am also very happy that the Spain issue was solved without any bloodshed and violence. I salute the wise leaders of Europe!


                            (Sas sorry I thought it was your turn)
                            Last edited by Dream Deceiver; April 15, 2002, 08:28.

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                            • #59
                              Disraeli Proposal

                              The Italian Foreign Secretary just came back from his Montalcino Estate and explained the position of King Vittorio Emanuele concerning the various international proposals!!

                              1. Spain: Italy agrees with the following suggestion:
                              Lisbon : Neutral
                              Cadiz, Madrid, Salamanca and Santander : British
                              Barcelona, Zaragoza and Valladolid : French
                              Valencia, Seville and the (without city) Balearic Islands: Italian

                              Furthermore, the King thanks the Ottoman for their mediation and congratulates the French and the British for their cool and reasonable treatment of the situation : we will be able to live and prosper peacefully under the spanish sun...

                              2. Italy doesn't agree with the attribution of Crete to Great-Britain: the island was venitian centuries before the Ottoman or the British first put a foot on it, and there is no reason why Italy should not reopen it's traditional trade posts there!! So King Vittorio Emmanuele says about Crete: let's the first who takes the island keep it!! Italy will respect the victor of the "Race to Creta"!!! The Brindisi Squadron was seen steaming out of the port last night...

                              3. Dardanelles and Bosporus Straits : Italy agrees with the proposal, but a further clause should be included: the Straits should be open to all civilian traffic (i.e. Ocean liners carrying freight)

                              4. Italy doesn't fully understand what this clause means!!

                              5. Italy agrees on the League of Nations and proposes an Austrian secretary-general .
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                              • #60
                                France applauds King Vittorio Emanuele attempt to negotiate a longterm solution for Spain.

                                But France has to object on the suggested division of Spain. The current proposal is clearly in Britains favour. Allthough Britain should get a sizable part of Spain, this is too much.

                                Frances suggestion:



                                Lisbon, Cadiz, Salamanca and Santander : British
                                Madrid, Barcelona, Zaragoza, Valencia and Valladolid : French
                                Seville and the (without city) Balearic Islands: Italian
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