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  • Hmm, Jay messed up on the map.

    Notice New Zealand, ah well, should we fix that or what?..

    Screw around post: Excerpt from the book Leopold and Rashi Kali; The Traveling Monarchs... (dated 1910)

    One may find the history of the colonial period quite dry and annoying. Constant power plays and lack of action made for a dull and wordy period in the world's history. But there are two men who are the essence of action, the essence of politics. One would call them traveling Kings, Rashi Kali and Leopold of Habsburg.

    A little before 1 a.d., Leopold of Habsburg arrived in Africa. One must realize that the time was one of mystery and fear. The Africans knew nothing of Europeans and the Europeans had no clue what to expect from the southern Africans. Tales from the Mali and Israel rang clear throughout Europe, popular stories of the violent and gigantic king Shakeem. He was an imposing warrior who wore a mask to hide his terrible scars recieved while battling ten lions. In reality king Shakeem was nothing more than a great leader, his military prowess, while it may have existed, was not pronounced to the point of legend. Many factors could have influenced this type of logic for Europeans. Specifically the constant bids for support from the Mali and Israel, invoking the mysterious Zulus as some sort of a dominant military order more than a nation.

    Despite this the well traveled Leopold of Habsburg, who had made rounds from Germany around the Black and Caspian seas, into Mongolia, down through Israel, and eventually accross the Mediterranean on a ship to Sudan was well prepared to hold audience with the mysterious Shakeem. Initially Leopold was impressed with the beauty of the Zulu cities. He was completely awe-struck when he entered Tanzania...

    (I will finish this later, this has nothing to do with anything but I thought in real life a book like this would eventually be written, so its kinda cool... whatever.)

    "Our cause is in the hands of fate. We can not guarantee success. But we can do something better; we can deserve it." -John Adams


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      • Ok, map is fixed.

        I'm looking forward to Thursday....things are definetly starting to heat up.
        I see the world through bloodshot eyes
        Streets filled with blood from distant lies.

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        • From a College Textbook entitled "New World Studies 1 - Colonization". Can be found at all major Universities in Mali Proper, a required course for all Liberal Arts majors.

          Historian explanatory comments in paranathesis

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          Declaration of War

          As presented to the First Estate (Nobility composed the first Estate in the early Monarchy, there were 3 total, the Military making up the Second and the peasentry the Third.)

          Grievances against the Adriatic League

          1. Claimation of the land encompassing the banks of the great River, called by the native population the "Mississippi", and all land east thereof, until the coast line of the Atlantic Ocean, excluding territories of the great North, termed by Adriatic Explorers (from the region of Gaul) to be Quebec, was violated by the Adriatic League.

          2. Refusal to leave from these lands once demanded so.

          3. Subsequent sneak attack by Ships under the flag of the Adriatic League upon a squadron of warships, peaceably in the region of the Lesser Antilles.

          This, in gross disrespect to Mali terriotorial claims, and in violation of international honor, cannot nor will be tolerated. Therefore, the following demands are made upon the Adriatic League

          1. Withdrawl from all land so claimed by Mali.

          2. Turning over of a equivlant fleet of Warships to replace those sunk by the Adriatic League.

          Provided such terms are met, all land claims will remain as stated, and a "status quo" will be achieved.

          Should the Adriatic League not agree to the above terms before the commencement of hostilities by Mali all claims of land in the New World will be voided and revert to Mali.

          It is not Mali's wish to persue this war, but it is the wish of the nation-state to persue its intrest, and we cannot abide by such disrespectful interference in this matter.

          (The article was subsequently signed by the the presiding Nobility in support of the Kings Proclamation)


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          • I smell a big war..........

            The question is of course, will anyone else enter the fray?
            I see the world through bloodshot eyes
            Streets filled with blood from distant lies.

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            • It was a sweltering hot morning in the bogs of southern Louisiana, named so after the first Regent of Gaul. General Marino looked over his maps, over his notes, rubbing his forehead, how could something like this be real? He asked himself, he felt alone...

              "General Marino?" asked a slender man, dressed in a corporal uniform, he was obviously Italian.
              "Yes?" asked the General as he rose, he was an imposing man very large with a strong jaw.
              "I am Corporal Benovento sir, I have been dispatched here from Palermo, here are my papers." he handed the General his dispatch papers, and surveyed the encampment "Quite muggy here." he said, noting the soldiers all out of uniform and sweating heavily.
              "Yes, it is quite unbearable Corporal Benovento. So what is your purpose here, we already have our fill of Field Marshalls, we have our orders what are yours?" asked General Marino.
              "I have orders from King Ferdinand, strict orders, I am here to make sure nothing goes awry, I am an ambassador as well as a soldier, I am of course of a lower rank and under your supervision General Marino." he nodded with a smile, and gave the general a salute.

              General Marino entered his tent, tired of this life. He had been a soldier in the Adriatic army since he was a boy, he traveled the world, all over, from Scandinavia to Africa, battling various barbarian hordes. He was known as a hero, great with a sword, but he had never before commanded armies against another nation. He sat down in his chair and pulled out a peice of parchment, and began writing a letter to Santiago...

              General DePalma,

              My men are tired, they have worked like dogs in the sweltering heat of Louisiana. We are ill equiped and hardly manned for a war of this magnitude, Corporal Benovento has arrived at the behest of King Ferdinand. It seems as if though he is hear to watch over me rather than serve my needs, and they are quite extensive. We are out of food and we only have a small amount of troops in the theatre as it stands, if the Mali are as mighty as legend says we are in for a massacre! I trust in your Gen. DePalma to send troops and rations so that we may defend the honor of the Adriatic League. I have heard rumors that the Mongolians and Australians may join the Mali in destroying us here in the Americas, I wish to know what the status is with the various ambassadors appointed to those nations. I look at my men and feel sorry for them, are we marching them into glory or into slaughter?

              General Marino


              He looked over his message again, and folded it. He poured the wax on and stamped the ensign of the Adriatic army upon it. He stepped outside and called upon the messenger to bring his letter to the ship departing for Santiago. He looked into the dense wild forest and thought about his war, his future battles, "What will happen Giralomo?" he thought to himself "What will happen?"....
              "Our cause is in the hands of fate. We can not guarantee success. But we can do something better; we can deserve it." -John Adams


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              • Alright folks <a href="http://members.aol.com/nkreefer/rules.txt">HERE IS THE NEW RULES.TXT</a> so download it and replace your old rules.txt file with it.

                Make sure you do not replace your MAIN RULES.TXT it is important that you don't because you may screw up your game. The rules.txt that you are replacing is the one in the hotw2 folder, which should be in your scenarios folder.

                If anyone needs help with this please post here, we don't want any complications the day we play. So I'd appreciate it if anyone had questions or doesn't know what to do/how to replace the file to please ICQ me or post here on this thread. Its very important that we get off to a perfect start this comming week.

                We are two days away, so hopefully everyone is on the ball and ready for action this comming Thursday, at 8:00pm EST (U.S.) and Deity well, I trust you to know when we play.

                Thanks a lot and peace.
                "Our cause is in the hands of fate. We can not guarantee success. But we can do something better; we can deserve it." -John Adams


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                • The city of Santiago was a ragged port town. Though it was a relatively new town in a new world, it was already hardened by the sea and by its rag-tag denizens. General DePalma sat upon his porch viewing the rolling ocean, the cool breaze upon his face was pleasant he smiled at the sun and at his life. Seemingly unaware of the war just miles away. "General DePalma, a message from-" said his servant Alberto.
                  "Alberto, just put it on the table there, I am quite tired." he said motioning towards his side table, which had grapes and bread upon it.
                  "Sir, it is a message from Marino in Louisiana, it should be urgent sir, the war and all..." trailed off the servant as he placed it upon the table.
                  "Alberto, read it to me." said the General.
                  "Sir I can not read." said the boy, obviously ashamed.
                  "You can not read Alberto?" asked the General, rising in his chair.
                  "No sir, I never learned, I didn't have time to go to school I had always been at work, we were poor General, I apologize for not having told you this-" said the boy, pleading.
                  "It is quite alright Alberto, sit please sit, I shall read the message to you." the boy hesitantly took a seat on the floor as the old General broke the seal and read the letter...

                  General DePalma looked stunned at the letter, he looked to the horizon, then back at the boy sitting on the floor. The boy was dressed sparsely, obviously poor, he was a Spaniard. For the first time in his career DePalma had felt scared, looking into the wide eyes of that young boy as he heard the letter. "General, what will come of Marino's men?" he asked, sounding as worried as DePalma has ever heard anyone.
                  "I don't know Alberto, they are in Louisiana, in a swamp, being bittin by mosquitos, there are crocodiles and leaches, swamp gas, diseases..." he stopped talking and looked down at the paper "They are under-manned, and ill-equipped, I can do nothing Alberto."
                  "What about King Ferdinand, is he not as strong as the Lion of Venice? Will he not prevail?" asked the boy.
                  "I don't know Alberto, it is a sad situation." he stood up and began pacing, intently staring at the ground.
                  "Why is there war General? Why do the Mali and Adriatics fight?" the young Spaniard asked.
                  "Because Alberto, when people want something and someone else tries to take it, they will fight over it." explained the General.
                  "But why? Why can't they share?" asked the boy.
                  "You do not understand, it is the way of the world." said the General.
                  "To fight?" asked the boy.
                  "Yes Alberto, to fight." said the General, folding the letter and placing it in his belt "When things don't go according to plan people revert to the sword Alberto, you will learn this when you become a soldier one day."
                  "But what is wrong with sharing the land General, why does King Ferdinand fight the Mali?" asked the boy, the General seemed annoyed.
                  "Because Alberto, the King can not be treated with disrespect, it is not proper. Nations must treat eachother fairly and accordingly, the Mali threatened us, and we responded. We want peace, we are offering peace now, but the Mali won't have it, they want more, they want to steal our land, they want to kill us, they want blood." said the General harshly.
                  "I understand sir, do you require anything?" asked the boy as he stood up.
                  "Alberto, I have a letter I must write for General Marino, when I finish please take it down to the pier, you may then take the rest of the day off." said the General.
                  "Thank you General DePalma...."
                  "Our cause is in the hands of fate. We can not guarantee success. But we can do something better; we can deserve it." -John Adams


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                  • General Intiative #33

                    To All Loyal Forces of King Rahim Abdul the Third within the New World

                    As so ordered by his Royal Highness


                    All forces under the nominal command of Shareef al Quana are order south with haste to dispose of the insurgent forces of the Adriatic League and secure the region for the Glory of Mali.

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                    • Alright a better way to save the rules.txt...

                      Now when you click <a href="http://members.aol.com/nkreefer/rules.txt">THIS LINK</a> the window should move to the actual rules.txt. When the window changes to a version of the rules.txt (which will show up in your explorer, netscape, aol etc. window) simply right click it and select save.

                      It will then ask where to save it, simply go into your hotw2 folder which should be in your scenario folder, which should be in your Civ2 MGE directory and save it as rules.txt it will most likely ask you if you want to replace the old rules.txt file, choose yes.

                      Hopefully this will work, again I will be available an hour before we start on Thursday to help anyone with any issues at all. If you can't make it early I should be online from 6:30 to whenever to sub in for Drake's diplogame in the event that Sun Tzu doesn't show up, which if any of you know ol' Sun is not a very bad possibility.

                      Amother quick thing I want to address is posting to the website. I understnad that posting is not mandatory, but it is frowned upon when posts don't go up, this is the day before the session and thus far the site has no posts for Australia, Mongolia or Israel. IF its in the mail you have nothing to worry about, but if you have yet to type one up you should probably change this trend.

                      The only change to the rules.txt is that the Longship now sinks.

                      Thanks a lot, see ya on Thursday.
                      "Our cause is in the hands of fate. We can not guarantee success. But we can do something better; we can deserve it." -John Adams


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                      • On a sunny morning, a ship arrived AussieSumma quitely. A young man stepped out the ship, speaking to an aussie soldier approaching to him: "I'm a Mongol diplomat came from Verona. I'm carrying an important message to Australia Consul, Mr. Keating. I want to meet the Mayor."

                        In the Town Hall, the Mongol diplomat handed the Mayor a sealed package. "Here is a letter from our Consul Tuo Lei, and a map of new world. Please send it to Mr. Keating as soon as possible."

                        "Consul Tuo Lei?"

                        "Yes, like our allies Chinese and Australia, our country have changed to Republic Goverment as well. It's decided by the Mongol all tribes meeting this year. Our King War4ever had retired. The all Mongol tribes Meeting voted Lord Tuo Lei as our new leader."

                        "Oh, I see. OK I will send the package to our Consul soon." The Mayor called up a soldier and aske him to carry the package to Canberra right away. Then he turned back to the Mongol diplomat: "How is the new world exploring of Mongol?"

                        "It's pretty exciting. We have met Malian there. Rumor said our neighbor Adriatican is also arround there. And seems they had sneak attacked the Malian. Our Consul is very concerned. In his letter, he asked Mr. Keating about his oppion about this. And wish to get more information about new world from Australian. Are there anything I can bring back?"

                        "Yes, I just received a new up-to-date map. You can bring back."

                        "Ok see you then."

                        "Take care."



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                        • Here is my 2 cents:

                          Besides the general thursday night session, how about we play a bit of PBEM in between? Espacially when there is no war and no hut openning time.

                          I aksed that for 2 reasons:
                          1. speed up the game a bit by playing several more turns per week.
                          2. We can do city-management more in the PBEM part, therefore save the time during Thursday. And can do more dipo during game.

                          Just some thoughts.

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                          • Absolutely not an option for a diplo game. You can't be diplomatic when you're playing single player because the AI doesn't usually represent your intentions very well. Your AI representative goes and signs an alliance with someone and boom. Game screwed up.

                            I appreciate the idea of wanting to get more play time in with the game, but it's just not an option for this sort of game. Sorry

                            I see the world through bloodshot eyes
                            Streets filled with blood from distant lies.

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                            • A letter from Consul Tuo Lei to Chinese Consul:

                              Dear Sir,

                              Again, Mongol want to gift out some units to China. There is a group of settler from Bakhara is starving at Sibria. Our city can't support them for even one more year. I sincerely hope Chinese Goverment can host them. As a thanks, we can also gift out some ship or horseman. We hope they will become free unit and don't have to be supported by any Chinese cities.

                              The progress of settlement is slow. It was partially because the raging barbarian arround Canada area. Another reason is the settlers requires a lot of food under Republic Goverment. In order to speed up the settlement in New World, I suggest as least one of our goverment need to change to Monarchy. According to our astologist, the best chance for switching Goverment is at beginning of next century, which is 40 years from now. I wish to hear your decission soon.

                              Our country are carrying out a big project called Grand Canal. We hope to link the Yellow river from Shanghai and Karakorum Lake by the Great Canal.
                              Then the inland of Mongol empire can be irrigated. If you can build irrigation at southwest of Shanghai OR Northwest of Beijing, it will help us with this project. Your help will be greatly appreciated.

                              Of course, the most important thing is to found found new cities in North America. Our settlers there will do it soon. And we hope to hear about your oppions as well.

                              Glory belong to Chinese and Mongolian.

                              Consul Tuo Lei

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                              • my late post from last week
                                sorry, but I had a lot of stuff going on lately.....

                                ----

                                Deity pondered the seclusion of Paul lately.

                                Was he upset?

                                The war started by the Adriatics was certainly no surprise, but a shock all the same.
                                Clearly they had come to the New World to cause trouble. They seem to need to be noticed. They have always spoken threateningly and constantly mentioned ‘war’, ‘fighting’ etc.

                                Deity, with his supreme and spotless reputation, is anxious to hear from Paul for he fears that Paul’s thoughts may be tending to war….
                                But Deity implores you to consider this:
                                This is NOT your war.
                                Your allies would expect you to remain neutral and your plans to colonise the West Indies may have been a little over-confident.
                                But what of the poor Mali I hear you say?
                                Seek peace with the AL and maybe attempt to defuse the situation.
                                Deity knows that you hold high hopes for vast and wealthy colonies in the Americas but be content to compromise. Make friends and peace...

                                I await your response, Paul...

                                Things have been going well however on the Aussie homeland with all cities growing and building various improvements.
                                Several new cities were established and one was ceded to help our loyal allies, the Chinese in developing their nation. North America is there's and Mali.


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                                *deity of THE DEITIANS*
                                aka: half-assed dieticians
                                icq# 8388924

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