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Sorry to hear that, Vlad... and don't sweat the Xinning thing.
Drop in again if you get the chance (though I think this one will be over soon, and long before July...).
"I'm a guy - I take everything seriously except other people's emotions"
"Never play cards with any man named 'Doc'. Never eat at any place called 'Mom's'. And never, ever...sleep with anyone whose troubles are worse than your own." - Nelson Algren
"A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." - Joseph Stalin (attr.)
First Thoughts
It's good to come to a game and find a long ship chain in tact. Congratulations to Obiwan18 for this, which was reflected with his impressive record of research ... even though he forgot about Automobile
We are a warlike Republic The problem is we are at war with too many civs at the same time. As we depend upon long distance trading to maintain our gold/science rate the supply lines become endangered if taking on more than a couple of enemies at one time. The Celts seem to be well placed for trade so peace with them will allow freight storage in a fort on their continent, which prevents pirate frigates sinking full transports of goodies. I have seen the dreaded window "9 Units Lost" but I wish to avoid the rehabilitation course at The Institute for careless Admirals.
Change build orders for Temples in remote regions to Courthouses. With all the happy wonders instant temples are not required. Courthouses halve the corruption and makes bribing less attractive.
I note that two sets of five engineers are railroading two squares. Only two engineers can contribute work at any given time. The secret is to move them onto the tile in rotation. After starting the first pair move the third one on and cancel the order given to the first one - setting the third one to work, then move the fourth engineer in and cancel the order of the second one etc. The order is important or Xin's trick won't work!
1760 Wood Lake captured 78 plundered;
Peace with Celts for Metallurgy - they have a navy which threatens our floating freights
Peace with the Persians after bribing Gordium
Bribe Zulu Caravan blocking rail network
Food Freight solves Arkwright's immediate hunger problem.
Gold to Arkwright 86; Silk to Kells 756;
1762 Conscription ... Automobile not offered so Tactics.
Supermarket in Arkwright to regain food surplus. Dead Buffalo captured 177 plundered Port Booth founded Lister founded
Peace with Sioux
Hides/Salt to Cardiff 182/148; Beads to Rhondda 78; Wine to Iona 297; Salt/Hides/Hides/Beads/Gems/Hides to Kells 182/210/270/348/264/270;
Barb Leader 150;
Decided to continue the war with Spain as they are away from the main trading corridor. The distance of Spanish cities from our home patch will be useful when Flight reduces trade bonuses. After the construction of a few Airports airlifted freight should be worthwhile.
1764 Tactics
Beads/Gold/Gems x 2/Spice/Hides to Kells 210/224/210/270/298/332/
Silver to Cardiff 285; Silk to Kells 564; Tyre bribed for a base in the Celtic trading area Cordoue bribed for 1045 - 236 plundered
1766 Automobile
Salt x 3/Cloth/Gems/Wine/Copper x2 to Kells 200/182/296/348/256/332/300/120
Coal to Cardiff 145;
Widespread Superhighway construction started.
1768 Machine Tools
Superhighways in Arkwright, Crompton, Trevithick, Newcomen, Lion, Iron Duke.
Silk/Oil/Gold/Gems/Wine x 2 to Kells 438/184/298/186/192/226
Silver to Cardiff 760;
1770 Genetic Engineering Madrid captured 391 plundered Seville bribed for 1144 - 337 plundered Arebela (Spanish) bribed for 727 - 186 plundered Harvey Advanced Tribe
Hides/Dye/Oil/Gold/Gems/Oil/Beads/Salt to Kells 585/456/202/201/270/208/310/184
1772 Miniaturusation Cure for Cancer
Sneak attack by Persians and Celts (sinking a transport)
Hides x 3/Oil/Wine/Cloth to Kells 603/220/220/256/498/492 Salt/Cloth to Hargreaves 153/183 (Unblocking) Point of Rocks bribed for 1206 - 133 plundered
1774 Mass Production
Celts go Commie; Germans back to Monarchy.
Silk x 3 to Kells 522/456/294
Gold to Carmarthen 342
Oil to Newcomen (unblocking) 271
Silver to Caernaffon 1117 Pasargadae bribed for 969 - 245 plundered
Notes for next player: Arkwright has a repeating Hides supply. To make the most of this situation spies were rushed every turn and disbanded so a freight could be built each turn. They are worth about 500+ a time. There are some freights stacked in two forts on the Celtic continent - they don't usually kill them unless they can be blasted from the sea! I didn't give any techs to the Sioux as trade kept on producing the advances so long as a full transport of rushed freights could leave port each year. Xinning was minimal throughout.
Computers will be in next turn.
Treasury 4283
At 70% Tax - 30% Lux Income = 1863 less 213 overheads. Several cities are still growing.
Population = 31.8m
Arkwright = Size 33 and has enough food to reach 36.
A note on one turn freight rushing. This works if barracks are still available on the list. Rush a barracks, switch to dip/spy, rush the spy. (160+25=185...cheaper than rushing a spy=210)...then proceed to engineer/rifle, then freight.
The rushing of high paying freights is a great strat, IMHO. Especially where science is zero. Even where it is not quite breakeven, the beaker bonus makes it worthwhile. I mention this for the benifit of anyone who might not understand why SG(2) recommends this.
Well done
I was having trouble keeping up with the tech/turn pace, mostly because I built 4 wonders during my turns as well.
The city of Kells must be stuffed to the brim with our goods. They have probably earned us - 10K gold this game.
We should bribe the city after we have launched, and rename the city "cash-cow."
With computers, we may be close to 1 tech/turn without trade, and massive xinning.
12 techs remaining. Have the Zulus completed Atomic Theory yet?
Scouse Git (2)La Fayette Adam SmithSolomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
"Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
2015 APOLYTON FANTASY FOOTBALL CHAMPION!
I will not be able to play until I return from the Aussie group dinner which is in Sydney over the weekend so if The Rabbit Man wants to jump in over the weekend to keep things moving , I will play on Monday after I return.
Thankyou
The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits
1. obiwan18
2. SG(2)
3. Jrabbit (switched with Hydey)
4. Hydey (switched with Jrabbit)
5. SCG
6. STYOM
7. SG[1]
8. Bloody Monk
9. La Fayette
Play 8 turns, pls.
"I'm a guy - I take everything seriously except other people's emotions"
"Never play cards with any man named 'Doc'. Never eat at any place called 'Mom's'. And never, ever...sleep with anyone whose troubles are worse than your own." - Nelson Algren
"A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." - Joseph Stalin (attr.)
Took a quick look around. 51 cities, 31 MM population. Supremely spotless. Not bad!!!
At war with 3 civs, churning out about 30 vans/turn, shipchain to Celts, convertible to Sioiux. Very cool idea to fortress freights on delivery continent. Why have I never thought of that??
(Oh, yeah, I've never managed to set up nearly this extensive a trade empire...)
Looks like our job is to keep delivering freights (as many as possible before Flight), whittle down the foreign civs as permissible while remaining spotless (though reputation was not a rules condition ), and continue amassing the (12) techs still needed for the stars.
The only potential fly in the ointment would be for a foreign civ to buy up the last WoW, which would cripple our SS build. (This happened to me recently... )
It's work today, FNSGS at Ming's tonight. Hope to play Saturday.
Apolyton's Grim Reaper2008, 2010 & 2011 RIP lest we forget... SG (2) and LaFayette -- Civ2 Succession Games Brothers-in-Arms
The only potential fly in the ointment would be for a foreign civ to buy up the last WoW, which would cripple our SS build. (This happened to me recently... )
It's not a huge fly. Build Spies instead, disband them into a city and then rushbuild the SS part in question. Sure, it's not as effective as using Freight (wastes 15 shields), but we should be swimming in by the end game, and it won't matter much.
Besides, we're far ahead of the AI technology wise. It's unlikely they'd get the last wonder (Manhattan). The only way that could happen, as I see it, is if we get sloppy and let the AI steal a lot of techs. So be vigilant for bourgeois spies! (Sorry, lapsed into Red Front character there )
Oh, and spotless, schmotless. They're all attacking us anyway. Teach 'em some respect!
"I'm a guy - I take everything seriously except other people's emotions"
"Never play cards with any man named 'Doc'. Never eat at any place called 'Mom's'. And never, ever...sleep with anyone whose troubles are worse than your own." - Nelson Algren
"A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." - Joseph Stalin (attr.)
The problem is we are at war with too many civs at the same time. As we depend upon long distance trading to maintain our gold/science rate the supply lines become endangered if taking on more than a couple of enemies at one time. The Celts seem to be well placed for trade so peace with them will allow freight storage in a fort on their continent, which prevents pirate frigates sinking full transports of goodies. I have seen the dreaded window "9 Units Lost" but I wish to avoid the rehabilitation course at The Institute for careless Admirals. 
The city of Kells must be stuffed to the brim with our goods. 
shortly.
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by the end game, and it won't matter much.
I'm off to see the wizard... 
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