our defensive line

[EZRhino]

Karl's dont appear to attack Sevestpol unless the Germans hold Perekop, as for Nerva doable, but it is probably easier to just switch production in Leningrad to cruisers. I thinks is a gamble to try to hold Talinin, not to mention spread our selves thin; the Ai loves to drive up through the swamp south of Luga. On the subject, it is probably a good idea to raze that road going through said swamp

Edit: Oh yea, Im with fodder here, we need a poll.

[The ANZAC]

I don't think we should be too optimistic in what we want to hold. If we keep the line too outward, it will get overrun and it will be harder to setup another one more to the interior. We take some territorial losses, and as long as we consolidate our armies, we can push the Germans out even if they hold more territory than we want.

[Henrik]

I doubt we'll be able to hold smolensk and vitebsk, the germans are allways very quick to expand in that area.

[EZRhino]

Considering all of the house rules we are using, I would agree that we shouldnt be overly optimistic about what cities we can hold. We should limit ourselves to Leningrad, Kharkov, Moscow, Tula, Seramofvich, Verezonah, Stalingrad, Rostov, and Sevestpol. Depending on how lucky we are on the first turns, It might be wise to try to hold Perekop also.

[Shaka Naldur]

Originally posted by EZRhino
Considering all of the house rules we are using, I would agree that we shouldnt be overly optimistic about what cities we can hold. We should limit ourselves to Leningrad, Kharkov, Moscow, Tula, Seramofvich, Verezonah, Stalingrad, Rostov, and Sevestpol. Depending on how lucky we are on the first turns, It might be wise to try to hold Perekop also.

I've played the scenario with our rules and it is going to be very difficult to hold vitebsk and smolensk,

is Kharkov so defensable?
I'm not planning on holding the city, if anybody has a good strategy to hold it...

[The ANZAC]

yeah, in MGE things are MUCH harder. I'd be skeptical if we can hold Kharkov.

[EZRhino]

Sorry, I meant Kallinin. Not Kharkov, was quoting from memory. I have always played with MGE, and I have never tried to defend Kharkov, but I doubt that it possible to hold on to it for very long, at least with out jepordizing the defence of more important cities.

[Shaka Naldur]

Originally posted by EZRhino
Sorry, I meant Kallinin. Not Kharkov, was quoting from memory. I have always played with MGE, and I have never tried to defend Kharkov, but I doubt that it possible to hold on to it for very long, at least with out jepordizing the defence of more important cities.

Kharkov with an AA batery and the NKVD troopers could hold for a while, but it is not worth the effort

[EZRhino]

It guards Moscow's northern flank, as well as the only route of resupply to Leningrad.

[The ANZAC]

yes I plan on holding Kalinin at all costs

[Shaka Naldur]

if the ai takes kalinin will have german units in the urals

so comrade anzac you must defend the city

[VetLegion]

In my game I managed to hold Smolensk relatively easily.

I think AI is not programed to take it specificaly, so it will rush to Moscow which then allows for some nice counterattacks from Smolensk the whole time.


Also a suggestion for you people about defending - do the 'scorched earth' policy. Leave as little units in cities you leave behind as to make sure Germans take them at size 1, or if they are not obective, completely destroy them. You have to destroy anti-tank defenses for this. Also pillage industrial squares around them.

The reason for this is that cities west of Don will be in German hands for most of the war and you don't want to give them the production.

The charge towards Berlin when time arrives is best via Smolensk in a straight line. Very doable when you get proper troops.

I took Berlin and penetrated deeply into Germany while Germans were still quite deep in my territory, still held Sevastopol for example.

Just some random thoughts of mine. I enjoyed this scenario very much and will follow your progress with interest.

[H Tower]

want to be a front commander? an opening has come up along the murmansk front

[Ben Kenobi]

Go for it VetLegion

Take my spot.

[Shaka Naldur]

Originally posted by VetLegion
In my game I managed to hold Smolensk relatively easily.

I think AI is not programed to take it specificaly, so it will rush to Moscow which then allows for some nice counterattacks from Smolensk the whole time.

there is an event when the city is conquered

Also a suggestion for you people about defending - do the 'scorched earth' policy. Leave as little units in cities you leave behind as to make sure Germans take them at size 1, or if they are not obective, completely destroy them. You have to destroy anti-tank defenses for this.

this is considered cheating

Also pillage industrial squares around them.

The reason for this is that cities west of Don will be in German hands for most of the war and you don't want to give them the production.

The charge towards Berlin when time arrives is best via Smolensk in a straight line. Very doable when you get proper troops.

I took Berlin and penetrated deeply into Germany while Germans were still quite deep in my territory, still held Sevastopol for example.

Just some random thoughts of mine. I enjoyed this scenario very much and will follow your progress with interest.

good sugestion
sometimes there are a few cities quite hard to conquer,
in my games perekop always have around 70 units

take the front comander place