Wonders of the World Discussion thread

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Originally posted by H Tower
Kirov would work very well in Moscow, all squares are being worked, the front defending it is reasonably well off, the city won't come under attack if we stop producing units there, not to mention all the shiled multipliers, hydro, ammunition and powerplant will each give an extra couple shields per turn. The 21 could turn into an extra 40. (my math could be very far off)

The problem with building Kirov in a city that already produces a lot of shields, is that any shields/turn above 100 seem to be wasted. In my experience, anyway.

Since none of the units cost more than 120 shields (IIRC), and there is no shield carryover, we'd be better off boosting some other city from 60 shields to 100, rather than boosting Moscow to 130 (or whatever that comes to).

[Xenozod]

No, he was referring to last night(this morning?)

[conmcb25]

I agree with the Old Guy here. We might waste some sheilds putting Kirov Tank works in Moscow.

I would prefer having it in Sverdlosk. That way Sverdlosk and eventually Kirov would be about the same in production. The plan eventually being putting two units into the Front every turn from the Urals. And this war isnt over yet. Taking Berlin is going to take a lot of Katyusha's! Plus we need occupation troops to rape and pillage er occupy the German cities when we take them. Things are going well on the Belorussin front but lets not forget we have Nazi Puig Dogs south of the Don right now threatening the oil feilds. This war isn't over yet!

And with two airports right now that isnt a far fetched endevor. With a THIRD airport in Kirov on the turns we have three units we could ship in three!

We have 3done a lot of work in the Urals the past 6 months it would be a shame to abandon that effort and switch strategies now.

Just my opinion not a directive!

[greeny]

we'd be better off boosting some other city from 60 shields to 100, rather than boosting Moscow to 130 (or whatever that comes to).

Leningrad has around 60 shields of production I believe, and has all/nearly all squares worked on.

[Colwyn]

Rush buy it in Minsk, better production near the front is better!

[Ben Kenobi]

1. Build Labour Front.
110 gold/turn always useful

2. Kirov tank works to add 60 shields in Moscow.
What about Stalingrad?

3. NKVD works
They always come in handy.

4. Convoy System.
We are currently backed up due to Yop's success on the front.

5. Civilian Donations
If we got the cash, this will help. Otherwise, build some more of those Sturmoviks!

-Ivan Stefanovich, recently reassigned from Siberia.

[Colwyn]

We should build the Kirov tank works in Warsaw next turn so it can build sturmoviks and tanks in 1 turn rather than 3.

Its central position and the fact its well protected by 3 KV1's means it won't fall now that we've just retaken it

If we are ever going to take Berlin we'll need lost of kayusha's etc. Driving them from the urals will take too long and knacker them out.

a few million rubles is all it will take.

[Bossy20000]

Originally posted by Colwyn


a few million rubles is all it will take.

Well, that's quite a lot of money I don't know if we will be able to spend so much money on a wonder right now, other fronts need troops to drive the Germans back and take cities. I like the idea, and I agree that the Ural is very far from Warsaw and Berlin, but then, a few MILLION rubbles

[greeny]

We do have a LOT of rubles coming in at the moment, and as you can see from the Econ. thread most fronts are pretty happy with the forces they have built up, not requiring extra unit bought. This may change when we begin to advance at speed however.

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by Colwyn
We should build the Kirov tank works in Warsaw next turn so it can build sturmoviks and tanks in 1 turn rather than 3.

Its central position and the fact its well protected by 3 KV1's means it won't fall now that we've just retaken it

If we are ever going to take Berlin we'll need lost of kayusha's etc. Driving them from the urals will take too long and knacker them out.

a few million rubles is all it will take.

Hmmm this is interesting. Do you have a barracks and anti tank defenses intact already? How about a steel mill and an ammo plant. If the basics are there I must say this idea has merit. But oinly if the basics are in place. And if we built on the wonder for a turn or if you have a cheap unit to disband building Kirov Tank works shouldn't be that bad. Just MHO!

[yop73]

We now already have 4500 gold in the pocket, and the caravans must still arrive. There is place for some big spending.

So, now about those katyushka's in the Murmansk front ...

[greeny]

Warsaw currently has Anti-tank defences and a steel mill, currently building barracks (1 turn to build) and produces a maximum of 49 sheild right now. Makes more sense to build an Ammunitionplant first does it not? (about 700k rubles) than Kiov tank works (about 2000k rubles)
Anyway it would be more efficent to first rush ammo plants in Vitebsk/ Smolensk/ Leningrad/ Rostov/
Sevestopol/ Serafimovich before rushbuying Kirov Tank Works.

On the other hand Warsaw is ALOT closer to Germany of course and will likely be close to our front lines for most of the war.

[Ben Kenobi]

Excellent suggestion, if we can hold Warsaw.