The President - Nominations

[Ben Kenobi]

Anyways, to raise a serious point for a second, I'm not sure if we can actually make the President the moderator. Ming appears to have that power, and it has been demonstrated that his will overrides ours.

True, but look at HTower's role in the other DGs. We should not need any intervention from Ming in the forum since we ought to police ourselves.

I don't really see the need for a third mini-mod for this forum.

So if you are President, you would let the military do what it does best, kill Arabs?

Aren't you looking for a ceremonial President? Would you prefer a pacifist meddling in the military?

[PinkyGen]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


True, but look at HTower's role in the other DGs. We should not need any intervention from Ming in the forum since we ought to police ourselves.

I don't really see the need for a third mini-mod for this forum.

True, and that moral leadership shall be needed since I don't know if the President would get the actual authority. Hopefully the moral authority can suffice.

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Aren't you looking for a ceremonial President? Would you prefer a pacifist meddling in the military?

Hey, I was trying to point out your hypocrisy first. Also, that's why I want the militaristic President. And to be fair to conmcb25, he was talking "urging", not ordering.

I think I need to start making two posts here. One for my cheap partisan shots, and one for actually discussing what the hell this President is. Anyway, may the best Jew win.

[Ben Kenobi]

Well if you want a moral leader, why do only warmongers count as moral?

[conmcb25]

Ben isn't confident in my ability to moderate. I guess I dont suck up enough around here.

You know Ben you're right, the last thing I would want to do is moderate around here. I don't agree with management and how they handle obvious cheaters. And quite frankly I dont agree with you or any of the other people here who wanted to hear from panag or give him a second chance.

In my world you do something wrong and you get punished. Simple as that.

But you know what? It doesn't matter what I think or you think.

All that matters is what Ming thinks. (Or Mark G)

So Ill make it simple. The President was supposed to have moderating powers per our voted on Laws. We dont have the power to do it and I certainly don't want the job. So if that is a showstopper, I guess just dont vote for me. Or better yet maybe I need to leave for taking such a high moral stand.

I just wanted to be clear on that point.

[Ben Kenobi]

Ben isn't confident in my ability to moderate.

I'm not sure we ought to have a third moderator regardless of the outcome.

And quite frankly I dont agree with you or any of the other people here who wanted to hear from panag or give him a second chance.

Tough. He still has not been proved guilty of cheating. When he returns, when his ban is finished, he will still be able to post in this forum. How would you respond to that? Could you accept Panag's return?

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
Tough. He still has not been proved guilty of cheating. When he returns, when his ban is finished, he will still be able to post in this forum. How would you respond to that? Could you accept Panag's return?

Nope, I wont accept it, I will leave simple as that.

As a matter of fact since: "there was no proof of cheating", I nominate panag to be President.

He can send me a PM or email if he wants to post a speech.

[Stefan Härtel]

I second the nomination of Ben Kenobi.

[yaroslav]

Guys, first of all, please stop discussing about, panag

Second, I don't know if changing moderators all the time will be a thing that the Apoly staff would agree to... Why shall the president be moderator? Being moderator only means, if all going OK as I hope It's going to go, make thread sticky/unsticky and open/closed...

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by yaroslav
Guys, first of all, please stop discussing about, panag

OK Ill stop talking but my nomination stands.

Originally posted by yaroslav
Second, I don't know if changing moderators all the time will be a thing that the Apoly staff would agree to... Why shall the president be moderator? Being moderator only means, if all going OK as I hope It's going to go, make thread sticky/unsticky and open/closed...

Because it was in the PinkyGen;'s Basic Laws Poll.

Im not saying thats right, Im not saying it needs to be done. Im just saying its there. Looks like issue number 2, to resolve as we definitize the government.

[Ben Kenobi]

Yaro, message recieved.

[yaroslav]

Ok, I've not problems giving the moderator tittle to other (in fact, in some ways it will be a pleasure ), but I don't know if the Staff of this site wouldn't find annyong us to change moderators each 6 turns...

BTW, only two moderators (pluss a mega-moderator) are accepted.

[PinkyGen]

It was only in the law because it was Emu's idea, and I assumed since he suggested it, it was feasible. If it's not feasible, then to hell with it.

There are better things to argue with Poly staff over than creating a new moderator every 6 turns.

[conmcb25]

Roger that.

My point is that its in there, if it shouldn't be we need to get that fixed.

Thats issue #2 to resolve in the President's section of the "laws".

[conmcb25]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
I offer to ensure the seperation of political interference from military affairs. Let each side do what they do best.

Just exactly what did, I say that made you think I would meddle in military affairs.?

And how can you separate Politics and War? War is nothing but politics by other means.

We have already politically interfered in military objectives. And Harmony wanted to throttle the military even more than the One Israel/ Center Coalition.

How can you just make this blanket statement. Am I misinterpretting something here?

[EmuGod]

Ok, maybe I haven't really defined the President's role. The President is Israel's "most important citizen". He represents Israel (kinda like the foreign minister) and is chosen through distinct devotion to the state of Israel and through all the work he has done for the country. So the candidate who is chosen should be a person who has contributed a lot to the game and its development.