Communism

[$TaLuHgPad]

I wouldn't be so radical about blaming communism. This is just one of government types. DO NOT MESS communist idea and USSR.
Communism is very differnet . Like there are Parliament Dem.Rep. , President Dem Rep , etc , there is barrack communism (like in USSR) , communism with capitalist face (China) and Social-Democracy(as half of Europe is).
You blame Soviet Union...I understand why - because it was your enemy for about 50 years. But are you objective ? Do you think that it was so evil as your propagandists say ? You say "Politbureau" controls everything - I think it is a bit exaggerated . Yes , there was a censore (but don't you have it ? How is it with "Fahrenheit 9\11" ?), but it was a slave of Communist Party and other Soviets - who were elected DIRECTLY by simple people.
Of course censorship and lack of good goods is a bad part of Communim , but those facts , that ALL citizens had everything to survive (FREE medicine and education , e.g.), there is no problem with population growth and family happiness (unlike modern democratic states) - those facts that REALLY existed in the Soviet Union , those facts you can't deny.
Of course you blame USSR for military crimes , but haven't the States made them ? It was Cold War and both sides made crimes.
As the end of my topic , I want to quotate one vise man : "People get this government , that they deserve ".And how can you BLAME something without knowing the reasons WHY did this government , this idea, was born ?

[cavebear]

Originally posted by Bloody Monk
No problem, cb. Let's win this thing!!

And please don't forgo any creative writing for I enjoy a good story, too; just please keep in mind how literal minded I can be so that I do not get confused.

I can be bloody (no pun intended) literal-minded too sometimes. I'll try to be more obvious about fanciful stuff in the future.

[cavebear]

$TaLuHgPad - While we sometimes role-play a little bit (in Communism using the Soviet model) "communism" in Civ means only the changes in shields/happiness/trade/etc as presented within the game.

We do no concerned with real-world communism nor are we discussing politics when we refer to communism within the game.

And welcome to our game. It appears you will have some unique approaches regarding our actions.

[rjmatsleepers]

I'd love to give $TaLuHgPad a full reply, but that would take us far too far off topic. However (for the record), I never regarded the Soviet Union (let alone the Soviet people) as my enemy, despite being firmly opposed to most of it's political policies.

Now back to the game.

RJM at Sleeper's

[$TaLuHgPad]

Ok guy , I there was some misunderstanding =)
I posted about real communism because RJM said :
"I know it's only a game, but I couldn't bring myself to vote for a communist government. " RJM - how about giving me full ansewer in a private message ? I like long constructive discussions.

Now back to game.

Well , communism is my favourite government type in fact because it is both economically strong regime (because there is no corruption) , and military strong (6 citizens could be content because of units.+3 from Cathedral , +4 Collosium, +2 Temple - total 13 ! Whoa ! That means that I can make content city with the size of 16 in Diethy regime ! ). So it is more unified regime that gives you opportunity to develope economically and wage wars. AND (BIG BONUS) - SPIES ARE VETERANS !
That is really cool ! Making a revolt and stealing tech - that is what real Che Guevaras does ! =)

Another good strategy is when you switch between Democracy and Fundametalism, but if someone suddenly attacked you , be ready to lose some cities unless you make some units to defend.

In future I would like to divide "Communism" into : "Communism" (that was in USSR) , "Socialism" (that is now in CHina) and "Social-Democracy" (like in Sweden and Finland) , as I've done it into my Cold War scenario.

[rjmatsleepers]

Originally posted by $TaLuHgPad
Ok guy , I there was some misunderstanding =)
I posted about real communism because RJM said :
"I know it's only a game, but I couldn't bring myself to vote for a communist government. " RJM - how about giving me full ansewer in a private message ? I like long constructive discussions.

Sorry $TaLuHgPad; 40 years ago I would have loved to debate it with you long into the night. Actually, in 1970 while on a visit to Poland I did debate the UK government in N Ireland versus the Soviet government in Czechoslovakia with a Soviet delegation (over many glasses of Vodka). But neither of us changed the other's mind.

Myself when young did eagerly frequent
Doctor and Saint, and heard great argument
About it and about: but evermore
Came out by the same door wherein I went

Nowadays, the only red menace that bothers me is a bad bottle of claret.

RJM at Sleeper's

[Ben Kenobi]

Yeah, these threads are more about the game, than about politics.

And with the poll closed, I'm going to be looking for the reports from the ministers.

STALUGPAD:

Do you want a ministry position? It seems like the only non-Cavebear minister has lost interest in the game.