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  • Civ2 Demo Game #4 Poll Results and Further

    The Civ 2 Demo Game #4 setting poll is now closed. The results (as I best interpret them) are as follows:

    1. One city on a 5 square island at least 7 squares from the nearest land.
    2. A second city cannot be established until 1040 AD.
    3. There will be no Ironclads or Diplomats built.
    4. Trade (Caravans) are allowed.
    5. Spies are allowed.
    6. We must maintain a “spotless” reputation.

    From earlier discussions, I suggest the following:

    Despotism

    1. In Despotism, we have one (initially-elected) leader who will play the game as usual in short (generally 5-8 turn segments) and report on the progress of the game.
    2. In Despotism, the Despot is encouraged but not required to ask opinions and advice.
    3. The Despot may or may not ask some players to fulfill certain functions of planning or advice.
    4. The Despot may be cast out by majority decision at any time by citizen poll (not to be less than 3 days).
    5. A “Remove the Despot Poll” will be phrased as “I propose myself as new Despot” yes/no.

    Monarchy

    1. Upon achieving Monarchy, play will stop and an election is required.
    2. The Monarch will choose the positions of Minister he desires and appoint them (subject to acceptance by the appointees).
    3. The Monarch must have at least 3 Ministers and is expected to follow their advice.

    Republic/Democracy

    1. Upon achieving Republic/Democracy, play will stop and an election is required.
    2. There will be elections for Ministers of Trade, War, City-Planning, and Science. City-Planning includes new locations.
    3. The Consul/President can be removed at any time for not following advice of Ministers.
    4. The Consul/President can remove any Minister for bad advice and appoint or allow election for a replacement.

    Communism/Fundamentalism

    1. The same Secretaries/Priests as Republic/Democracy except that any can be removed at any time for any reason by the Premier/High Priest.
    2. The Premier/High Priest can be removed only by majority decision of the Secretaries/Priests.

    Citizens

    Any Citizen can post a poll at any time demanding a change of government available at the time (3 days minimum poll and specify kinds of governments to be considered).

    Is all this agreeable? I’ll seek a suitable map for our needs.
    Civ2 Demo Game #1 City-Planner, President, Historian
    Civ2 Demo Game #2 Minister of War,President, Minister of Trade, Vice President, City-Planner
    Civ2 Demo Game #3 President, Minister of War, President
    Civ2 Demo Game #4 Despot, City-Planner, Consul

  • #2
    I agree with the ramblings of the cavebear.
    The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits

    Hydey the no-limits man.

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    • #3
      Re: Civ2 Demo Game #4 Poll Results and Further

      Originally posted by cavebear

      Is all this agreeable? I’ll seek a suitable map for our needs.

      Let's go for it.

      RJM at Sleeper's
      Fill me with the old familiar juice

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      • #4
        Sounds good.
        Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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        • #5
          Re: Civ2 Demo Game #4 Poll Results and Further

          Originally posted by cavebear

          3. There will be no Ironclads
          NOOOOOOO!!!!! My precious Superclads!

          1. Upon achieving Monarchy, play will stop and an election is required.
          Just one thing to consider - how exactly will we decide whether or not to change Govts? This should be the one thing that should almost be required if supported with a poll, else we could well stay as Despots forever.
          Consul.

          Back to the ROOTS of addiction. My first missed poll!

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          • #6
            Now that Stu has provided us with a map - who is the first despot? Did I understand that we are going to have an elected despot? Before we discover any political technology? There must be a more macho way to decide it than a cissy election

            RJM at Sleeper's
            Fill me with the old familiar juice

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            • #7
              First up, who wants to be the leader?
              Next, how can we go about deciding between those brave souls putting themselves forward to lead the new nation? If we weren't on the net then I'd suggest a trial by force (armwrestling, basically), but as it is then that will depend upon those who put themselves forward and what capabilities they have. It'd be nice to have them play a quick MP match, but that's unlikely as it'd depend upon them both having MGE, the time and willingness to play. Otherwise, some other kind of online duel would be nice, perhaps with one of those shooty games. If the worst comes to the worst then maybe we could ask the crazy people in the Other Games forum to set up one of their weird forum games. Maybe (if we've only got two people vying for control of the nation) they could set up a fight, with the different moves (high/low/ mid attack or defense) and a certain number of hit points. This is only a rough idea, and, as I said, they're the experts.

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              • #8
                Ugh. I WOULD be OOC (out of the country) at this time...
                Consul.

                Back to the ROOTS of addiction. My first missed poll!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rjmatsleepers
                  Now that Stu has provided us with a map - who is the first despot? Did I understand that we are going to have an elected despot? Before we discover any political technology? There must be a more macho way to decide it than a cissy election

                  RJM at Sleeper's
                  What map are you talking about, and who is "Stu"?
                  Civ2 Demo Game #1 City-Planner, President, Historian
                  Civ2 Demo Game #2 Minister of War,President, Minister of Trade, Vice President, City-Planner
                  Civ2 Demo Game #3 President, Minister of War, President
                  Civ2 Demo Game #4 Despot, City-Planner, Consul

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                  • #10
                    I think that self-nominations and a subsequent election to choose the first Despot will work just fine.

                    Civ2 Demo Game #1 City-Planner, President, Historian
                    Civ2 Demo Game #2 Minister of War,President, Minister of Trade, Vice President, City-Planner
                    Civ2 Demo Game #3 President, Minister of War, President
                    Civ2 Demo Game #4 Despot, City-Planner, Consul

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                    • #11
                      /me thinks that Cavebear needs to read his own thread
                      "Stu" is aka Scouse Gits [1] and he posted a map on your thread requesting the same in the general forum
                      Our Map?
                      "Clearly I'm missing the thread some of where the NFL actually is." - Ben Kenobi on his NFL knowledge

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                      • #12
                        Forgot I had already posted it! Thanks.

                        Civ2 Demo Game #1 City-Planner, President, Historian
                        Civ2 Demo Game #2 Minister of War,President, Minister of Trade, Vice President, City-Planner
                        Civ2 Demo Game #3 President, Minister of War, President
                        Civ2 Demo Game #4 Despot, City-Planner, Consul

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                        • #13
                          OK, back to the game.

                          I think Hydey would make an excellent First Despot....

                          Anyone want to nominate themselves or somebody else?

                          Civ2 Demo Game #1 City-Planner, President, Historian
                          Civ2 Demo Game #2 Minister of War,President, Minister of Trade, Vice President, City-Planner
                          Civ2 Demo Game #3 President, Minister of War, President
                          Civ2 Demo Game #4 Despot, City-Planner, Consul

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by cavebear
                            OK, back to the game.

                            I think Hydey would make an excellent First Despot....

                            Anyone want to nominate themselves or somebody else?



                            I accept the nomination and call upon any else interested to nominate.
                            The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits

                            Hydey the no-limits man.

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                            • #15
                              Hydey would

                              A) beat the sh1t out of other prospective despots
                              B) use his amazons to distract them

                              It's gotta be hydey.

                              RJM at Sleeper's
                              Fill me with the old familiar juice

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