Turnlog 1758-1784

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


Awesome! Clearly our planning paid off! The Americans probably suspected an attack on New York, not Washington.

Nice to have 40 engineers, eh!

Now we can build a real empire, with RR everywhere.

The end has begun!

Even if we should lose Washington again (unlikely, but I stopped right after the capture, so the position isn't consolidated), we'll still have all those Engineers...

We also have many diplos placed close to cities like Boston, Washington, Bombay and Detroit... they should be nice and cheap now

I agree with your assessment. Even though the Germans and Greeks still have us outnumbered... their days are numbered

[Sparrowhawk]

Well done, and I for one have no problem with you playing 14 turns. It looks like a successful run, though short. The name Six Thousand Year Old Man will be long remembered in the History books (pun intended )

Originally posted by Six Thousand Year Old Man
We still had a previously wounded Knight with 2 moves left in reserve, but as soon as the flag went down I just moved the Settler in

Not that it matters, as you successfully took the city, but why not move a wounded unit in to take the city? Someone correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the unit that takes the city automatically fully heal? It seems like it would have made more sense to use the Knight than the settlers.

[ontheotherhand]
The imagery is great......10,000 settlers stand outside the city, watching the epic battle of the ages, and as soon as the defenders of the city fall to our mighty armies, the settlers stroll into the undefended city and the city of some (size 12) ?780 000? people or so immediately become part of the Apolyton Imperium. Apparently the sight of 10,000 farmers manning the walls was enough for the three quarter million people to fear rebellion against their new masters
[/ontheotherhand]

Edit:
Corrected two mistakes in my post
Also...I note that all Civs now have Railroad, do we continue the slaughter now, or do we give them some time to build up our Railroad system into their territory?

[Ben Kenobi]

all Civs now have Railroad, do we continue the slaughter now, or do we give them some time to build up our Railroad system into their territory?

With 20 squares of RR / turn, it will not take long to RR our empire. I say why hold up for the AI, when we can build our own railroads into their territory?

[Zedd]

the battle for washington will be long remembered! Great post I was on the edge of me seat waiting to see what happened.

Apparently the sight of 10,000 farmers manning the walls was enough for the three quarter million people to fear rebellion against their new masters

those were mean looking shovels

[cavebear]

Were the Cannons from Sheol attacking from the fortress 2 squares away?

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Thanks for the kudos, but I thought I executed the plan kind of slowly. I was worried near the end that the Americans might get Conscription before the units were in place. Good plan by all involved... and it worked out, luckily (I hate to say that, but it was close).

Originally posted by Sparrowhawk
Not that it matters, as you successfully took the city, but why not move a wounded unit in to take the city? Someone correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't the unit that takes the city automatically fully heal? It seems like it would have made more sense to use the Knight than the settlers.

I think I didn't use it because if I had moved it from the fort, it would have left another unit alone and thus bribeable.

On the other hand, maybe the Knight didn't have a move left, though I thought it had.

On the other other hand... I might have just stupidly forgotten to heal the Knight. It was late.

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Originally posted by cavebear
Were the Cannons from Sheol attacking from the fortress 2 squares away?

Nope. I was counting on the rivered, Fortified Fanatic to hold the bad guys at bay. When the Americans went 2 turns without attacking the Fanatic after I moved it there, I figured they didn't have the units to attack and moved the Cannons and Musketeer on top of it, in 1782.

A calculated risk, but not as big a risk as trying to move the Cannons onto nonroaded, adjacent squares around the city, IMO. In retrospect we should have rushed a Settler in Sheol for the 'Instafort'. I throw myself on the mercy of the Cabinet for changing the game plan, and in my defence, invoke von Moltke: "No plan survives contact with the enemy."

As it turned out, they were building a Colosseum in Washington anyway, and not a Dragoon or Cannon. Questionable priorities, but Washington was in and out of unrest for the last several turns before 1784.

[Ljube]

Originally posted by Six Thousand Year Old Man

As it turned out, they were building a Colosseum in Washington anyway, and not a Dragoon or Cannon. Questionable priorities, but Washington was in and out of unrest for the last several turns before 1784.

Yes Mr. Vice President, but civilised AIs are known for their stupidity when it comes to defence and building queues in times of war. They will, sometimes, keep building a wonder even though their city is falling.
They will almost never build an offensive unit to attack your troops at their gates when 10 of your offensive units are stacked with one single good defensive unit.

[Six Thousand Year Old Man]

Perhaps their 5 Musketeers gave them a false sense of security.

I'm almost tempted to pull out a save (I think I have one from 1780) and replay the battle, just to see if I ever would have had to use the Knight to win it. On the other hand, looking at the savegame, I missed attempting wall sabotage with a diplo, just because the stack of attackers was so big I didn't see him before the attack started. And if the walls had come down (probably a 1/3 chance of that, considering the improvements present in Wash), the attacks would have been almost automatically successful.

[Sparrowhawk]

It would be interesting to see what the results of leaving the walls up was...presumably the city is largely intact stil? (Size...12? 11?)

How about improvements? except for the ones you destroyed, did any survive the arrival of the 10,000 settlers in their midst? :hmm:

[cavebear]

Washington 1784:

[Sparrowhawk]

Thanks Cavebear, good to see the wishes of the Citizenry already being met.

Washington looks like a great addition to our empire, though those none settlers look even funnier guarding the city now. (or am I the only one who sees the irony in this )

[cavebear]

Originally posted by Sparrowhawk
Thanks Cavebear, good to see the wishes of the Citizenry already being met.

Your President and High Priest of the Apolytonian Imperial Fundamentalist Regime always does his best to inform the rabidly patriotic Citizens of any information He thinks proper and useful to the goals of the Regime.

Washington looks like a great addition to our empire, though those none settlers look even funnier guarding the city now. (or am I the only one who sees the irony in this )

Fortunately, it is still our turn. We can move at least one Dragoon into the city and fortify it (so there were additional ways to take the city), and there may be some wounded units with moves available (I haven't studied the situation deeper than that yet.). But if Washington was defended by Musketeers (as it appears to have been, then it seems safe to conclude that the surrounding American cities have the same units and those are not capable of mounting any attack on Washington even next turn.

The Washington city walls (to my complete surprise) survived the assault, so we will have at least one 2 defense unit and a Dip fortified inside city walls on a river square. The pathetic Republican Americans with their Musketeers have no chance of driving us out of Washington unless they have a wave of Diplomats to bribe it.

I suggest that, as a Fundie government, we adopt "Mithras" as our civ-god-protector. It seems to be both historically and logically correct.

[Sparrowhawk]

Sounds like a good new name for Washington to me.

[cavebear]

"Mithras Temple"?