Siro's Shop-o-Avatars is now Reopened

[Ecthy]

looking for orders? I've got one for you

if you can find a decent map of Central Europe in the year 1871 that is

the last I used was a bit messy in colors...

and I got bashed for it as well

[Chowlett]

Siro - thanks! Some colouration might be good, that was just easily found, I figured easy to reduce and ready transparent. I'll use that one for the moment though.

Zopper - it's a Klein Bottle. I has only one surface (ie, the inside is the same as the outside) and is non-orientable (ie, you can't define a consistent direction on it). It's a higher dimensional equivalent of a Möbius strip. In 4 dimensions, it doesn't even self-intersect!

Btw, if you Google for "klein bottle", one of the first few sites sells glass Klein Bottles -

[Ecthy]

what does self-intersect .... I see... you mean, when in 4 dimensions, it consist of one (hyper-)plane without ever crossing itself... not bad, can you show me a pic of it?

seriously though, if it is possible to show pictures of 3-dimensional objects on a plane, it should also be possible to show 4-dimensional ones... I think you have to eradicate one dimension and replace it with the fourth though... just like a black hole is a cone if you remove the 3rd dimension and replace it with the 4h

[Kassiopeia]

OK, email sent. And yes, those Star Trek pages are really time-consuming

[Sirotnikov]

Ecthelion, I'll seek and post it tommorow

Kassio, I didn't plan to log on, but you sent me and e-mail, so:

(btw, even though I'm perfectly capable of visualising 3D drawings on a 2D surface, I can't for the sake of me, visualize something with 4 dimentions...

[ixnay]

Is this good enough for 1871 Europe? I didn't spend much time on it.

[Bosh]

he's cute!

[mactbone]

It looks like puke is coming out of his eyes...

[Kassiopeia]

Thank you Sirotnikov!
The avatar is now even better.

[Sirotnikov]

Ecthelion, I'm a bit short on time, and for some reason images.google.com is slow.

I'll do it properly tommorow, all I have today is an ugly ugly map.

Glad you liked it kassio!

I'm ussy these days since i have many tests.

ixnay, if you could isolate germany in the avatar, i think that's what ecthelion meant

[Gramphos]

Chowlett, is this what you are looking for, or do you want any other color?

[Chowlett]

Gramphos, that's groovy. I'm updating now. I'm not quite sure what colour I do want, or whether multi-coloured might be quite cool. I'm not the artist here - if you have the time, suggest some stuff, and I'll pick what I like best, ok?

[Gramphos]

I don't know if this is any good, but it is multi color. I'm back to make another one.

[Gramphos]

Here is one that I really like.

[Gramphos]

This is the last one I have time to do today. I could do more single colored if you like, but doing all them would spam up this thread, so I wait.