Ad-Free Apolyton: THE POLL

[Scouse Gits]

I'm in - Credit Card Annual Subscription please - any reasonable figure acceptable

Stu

[Scouse Gits]

I don't understand why there is so much debate - I love 'Poly - come here every day and am willing to pay to maintain that priviledge. Just tell me how and how much and the money is yours.

It seems to me that there are several others in a like minded mode - and those that will always want something for nothing - or simply can't afford - I can afford - bill me!

Stu

[Skanky Burns]

Edit: You're probably right.

[DrSpike]

I'm sure you intended no ill will Skanky, but you should probably edit that.

[Scouse Gits]

Shucks - missed that - anything interesting?

[Skanky Burns]

No, nothing at all.

[Scouse Gits]

Yeah, right

[Skanky Burns]

On a more serious note, it was a joke but I decided to remove it rather than risk offense.

[PLATO]

Originally posted by Skanky Burns
On a more serious note, it was a joke but I decided to remove it rather than risk offense.

Good move, I believe.

[BigFree]

Originally posted by Bloody Monk


Just because there is no direct exchange of money does not mean you have not paid. If you avoided paying by, for instance, blocking the site's method of generating revenue, then YOU, by your action, did not pay. But it wasn't free. To claim so is being naive; which, surely,you are not.

I don't need to say you are anything; your words speak for themselves.

Have you perhaps heard the phrase, "You can't handle the truth."

The good thing is that if this plan works, then freeloaders will no longer be a problem and the use of a popup blocker will be unnecessary.

Monk

Post whatever you want. The naiveté is yours and your alone in this conversation.

Say that I'm cheap. Whatever. You just can't handle that I say you are wrong. Maybe it's you who can't handle the truth.

Your constant referals to those that think users have a right to block pop-ups are "moocher's" or "freeloader's" is absurd. Your whole argument is in fact weak to say the least. If YOU want to pay Apolyton to stop pop-ups for you, then YOU go ahead and pay them for it. I surely won't and it's out of principle and not for lack of money nor the lack of wanting to support Apolyton.

So why don't you be a good boy and pretend to be one of those Monks that don't speak for a bit?

[PLATO]

Originally posted by BigFree


Post whatever you want. The naiveté is yours and your alone in this conversation.

Say that I'm cheap. Whatever. You just can't handle that I say you are wrong. Maybe it's you who can't handle the truth.

Your constant referals to those that think users have a right to block pop-ups are "moocher's" or "freeloader's" is absurd. Your whole argument is in fact weak to say the least. If YOU want to pay Apolyton to stop pop-ups for you, then YOU go ahead and pay them for it. I surely won't and it's out of principle and not for lack of money nor the lack of wanting to support Apolyton.

So why don't you be a good boy and pretend to be one of those Monks that don't speak for a bit?

Since the service being discussed is OPTIONAL and that NOTHING CHANGES if you choose not to participate, I fail to see where you have "a dog in the race"

Secondly, The argument that you are "mooching" is Mark's, not Bloody Monk's. His posts on this subject seemed pretty clear to me...maybe I'm just naive too.

[Rasbelin]

Originally posted by DanQ

Second, we are only going to be using PayPal for now and definitely only PayPal in the immediate future.

Ohh, grreat. This means that people like me, who don't live in USA or have a credit card that could be used without Verified by Visa, can't be subscribing to your service. Please, Dan, concider also accepting money orders, cheques and bank transfers. You're going to make people from outside USA abit crippled.

[MarkG]

as already discussed, going with paypal only at this time is not a matter of will.

this is what can be done now. tomorrow is another day....

[MarkG]

BigFree, you are wrongly mixing your contribution as a poster with your contibution as a visitor.

as a poster, you post and in return you get to participate in a forum full with other interesting people

but as a visitor, you see ads and in return you get to browse the site, since, well it remains alive this way

so you may be a good poster, but you're a terrible visitor


thanks to everyone supporting the idea, please keep on voting(one way or the other) if you havent already. we hope to have some concrete results of our efforts before the end of the month

[BigFree]

I have nothing against ads, I loved most of the ones that were broadcast for the Superbowl. However, I dislike the way that some are delivered. Pop-ups are particulary annoying to me, that and non-solicited email with ads(spam).

I don't mind if a page has a few ads on it; heck, I expect it. I even click on a few now and then. Apolyton has had quite a few banner ads in the past. Why can't Apolyton support itself through these alone? Why can't Apolyton offer more/different services and require a subscription fee for those services as a substitute for the income normally provided through pop-ups?

Let's say Apolyton creates services that cost it $1.00 a month, per subscibed member, to provide. Then Apolyton charges a $1.25 for that service. How many $.25's does Apolyton need to support itself? This is the question that I would like to see Apolyton ask itself and it's member's.

I have already indicated I would be willing to pay for increased functionality of the site and the expansion of some of the already "free" (Moocher lover's ) feature's. I think we just need to discuss what Apolyton can do and what the members of Apolyton would be willing to pay for.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I don't want to pay for a service that blocks pop-ups. Since the very first time I saw one, I hated them. I don't think anyone will ever be able to change my mind about them.