Sparta-Gaian Relations part II

[Maniac]

Spartan Federation has clearly and intentionally violated our teritorial sea hoping to obtain tactical data without being noticed.

We didn't mind being noticed.

[Googlie]

Originally posted by Snoddasmannen
She was killed by an artillery shell from a gunship?

CRYPTEIA agents report that she was frolicking with her lover on a secluded nude beach on their south coast when a stray shell from the Invincible's target practice session fell on them

Ah well. that's life in the Gaian Union, I guess.

[Snoddasmannen]

Originally posted by Googlie
CRYPTEIA agents report that she was frolicking with her lover on a secluded nude beach on their south coast

Trust the CRYPTEIA to monitor all the critical locations ...

[Googlie]

Technically, the only assassinations in-game are those of research scientists (where the faction then loses all accumulated lab points)

Assassination of "the leader, Lady Skye" isn't an in-game item, but a roleplay one, so yes, they are drumming up an excuse to become less friendly.

I reckon they realize from these last three turns that we've doubled in size, gained the overall lead (among our 4 factions) and so they are taking the position "Why should we do anything to help Sparta"

They can't take on us and the Hive, so I wouldn't fear any offensive action from them unless the Hive injuries to those units in their bases to our south are as a result of a Gaian spore launcher that's now headed our way into the fungal barrier

I'd follow a tactic (Modo - was it yours?) expressed in the general strategy/help forum of building an arty unit in MT and 2NutStrand and every turn bombard the fungus around the bases.

[Snoddasmannen]

Debbie murdered!

We need to mock them Something for the next Phalanx perhaps?





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Debbie murdered!

Two days ago, Debbie, Colonel Maniacs pet goldfish, was found floating on her back in her bowl in Sparta Command. Emergency veterinary personell was immediately dispatched but it was too late to save her life. Though cause of death is not yet established, sources inside the Junta indicate that they strongly suspect carassiuscide. How the assailant got in and out of the area is unknown, but CSI crews have found rubber boots, worms and fish-hooks in the vicinity of the bowl.

The Colonel was devastated and issued several statements to the effect that he would dispatch Spartan troops to annihalate which ever faction was behind this, and that a "global war" was inevitable. Official Junta spokespeople later explained that while the Colonels statements may have been slightly exaggerated, it was not at all unlikely that the assailant - when caught - would have to buy Maniac a new goldfish.

[Modo44]

Poor Debbie.

Originally posted by Googlie
I'd follow a tactic (Modo - was it yours?) expressed in the general strategy/help forum of building an arty unit in MT and 2NutStrand and every turn bombard the fungus around the bases.

Not mine. My "tactic" usually involves lots of cheap Rovers rolling over everything.

[Maniac]

Originally posted by Googlie
I'd follow a tactic (Modo - was it yours?) expressed in the general strategy/help forum of building an arty unit in MT and 2NutStrand and every turn bombard the fungus around the bases.

Minas Tirith will finish a Coastal Guard next year, so that one can start already. Eg first patrol a bit with the seventh movement point returning back to the base, and then with its last MP bombard a fungal tile. Should also be handy to detect any incoming Hive troops.

Originally posted by Snoddasmannen
We need to mock them Something for the next Phalanx perhaps

[Kassiopeia]

Debbie

I wonder if it's a bit too blatant though, I don't think the Gaians will take kindly for that and we need to be sure we want that

[Snoddasmannen]

Originally posted by Kassiopeia
I wonder if it's a bit too blatant though, I don't think the Gaians will take kindly for that and we need to be sure we want that

Yes that's a good point, but I'm not so sure. We are presenting it as a fact in the role-playing. It is only a mockery in meta-roleplaying so to speak - ie real life So the only possible negative effect I can see would be to p the Gaian players for real. But if I were them I wouldn't really be offended. I can't see them using it as a casus beli in the game.

That's just my take, but on the other I'm biased to getting my work published

[Kassiopeia]

I am sorry to inform you that Gaian Union has refused exchange of tactical information.

The feeling is mutual.

Although it is a logical step to pool resources against a common enemy, Gaian Union declines because of actions of Spartan Federation.

For years and years, Spartan Federation is deliberately violating our teritory rights, mapping Gaian coast with their foil. Spartan Federation has clearly and intentionally violated our teritorial sea hoping to obtain tactical data without being noticed.
This act has been identified as hostile and as such, Gaian Union will not share any tactical data with you. Additionally, Gaian Union requests navigation logs from the foil as a possible compensation for your transgression. They must not be attempted to be falsificated.

The Federation staunchly refuses to acknowledge any retroactive claims to sea territory. By default factional sea borders are limited to the coastline unless a coastal or sea base is in question. The green little lines on everyone's maps are considered to be this borderline.

Therefore any sea territory outside your coast has been considered, most likely by all factions so far, to be neutral territory. The Federation refuses to acknowledge transport through neutral waters as a hostile violation of territory. We are happy to acknowledge any possible territorial claim you are willing to make, the same way we have claimed sovereignity over our coastal waters (the Modo Doctrine) - however these claims can not, by common sense and logic, be in power retroactively.

Our investigation has shown that so called Morgan had nothing to do with assasination, in fact, Morgan never commited a hostile act against us, unlike Sparta.

As I stated, we have made no hostile act against you and will do our best to avoid doing so in the future, as well. Again, we'll be happy to oblige to reasonable sea territory claims you are willing to make.

Current suspects are Human Hive and Spartan Federation,

By the power of deduction, then, our mutual enemy, the Hiverian horde, is the culprit.

and since Human Hive foils do not cruise our coast, prime suspicion for the murder is Sparta.

Spartan exploratory vessels haven't had, haven't, nor will they ever have intelligence operatives onboard. The only possibility would be a shot shell going astray and hitting your venerable Lady, but our exploratory vessels have yet to fire a shot to this date (which may change with the Morganites commandeering one of them, though).

Please, do not make the Junta suspect the possibility that this is a trumped-up charge spinned out of nowhere to facilitate a souring of relations that is a part of some greater scheme against us. Between you and me, the Junta is getting too paranoid the way things are already.

[Kassiopeia]

And to the end of that PM I'll add:

Now, unless this new turn in attitudes in the Gaian Union has affected our earlier tech agreement, I would like to relay to you a few questions and statements from our experts.

First off, since we are at war with the Hiverian horde, we desire IntInt ASAP because we need it to establish a safe defensive perimeter. This perimeter is required because we see our position as that of a 'lightning rod', which is attracting the wrath of the tempest that is engulfing Chiron this present moment.

When, then, will you have Intellectual Integrity at the current rate of research you are using? When are you going to research EcolEng yourselves (we need this information for our own logistical setup of the deal).

Also, can we agree to a clause that allows a party to use a friendly probe action to extract an agreed-upon tech in case sun spots obstruct normal diplomatic channels? Which brings in mind my final question - would you like to re-establish more formal diplomatic communications in the form of an embassy, or do you wish to stick to our current system?

[Maniac]

Great message.

Btw, could I suggest two little additions?

The feeling is mutual. We didn't really need your tactical information. We just thought, as you indicated a lack of activity, that we would do you a favour by providing you some info. It is of course your free right to decline our help.

Makes us look like the good altruistic guys.

Therefore any sea territory outside your coast has been considered, most likely by all factions so far, to be neutral territory, and unlike what you think, we therefore didn't mind being noticed by you. The Federation refuses to acknowledge transport through neutral waters as a hostile violation of territory. We are happy to acknowledge any possible territorial claim you are willing to make as long as you have the ability to back them up, the same way we have claimed sovereignity over our coastal waters (the Modo Doctrine) - however these claims can not, by common sense and logic, be in power retroactively.

By adding "as long as you have the ability to back them up", we could still deny an eg Gaian claim of 8 tiles of territorial waters, by the argument they don't even have coastal bases and a decent navy.

[Kassiopeia]

I've already sent the message, alas.

However,

By adding "as long as you have the ability to back them up", we could still deny an eg Gaian claim of 8 tiles of territorial waters, by the argument they don't even have coastal bases and a decent navy.

I modified the tone of the message a bit to: "We will accept any reasonable claims." What's reasonable or not will be up to us to decide. Ambiguity, the diplomat's best friend.

I did forget the line about not minding being noticed, but I think our point about us not doing anything wrong anyway was broadcasted well enough, regardless.

[Maniac]

Indeed.

[Snoddasmannen]

Good reply Kass