Sparta-Morgan Relations

[Kassiopeia]

Ninety credits? Considering our latest change in stance - I don't think so! Unless we really need that money? How much of a benefit would it have on them (they are whingeing about effic)?

[Kassiopeia]

Oh, and I even got an idea if I am to post our disapproval.

Lieutenant Colonel Maniac has decided to decline your proposal.

Then, they might start to wonder, "I thought the Junta was who you were speaking for? Kassi, what's going on?"

Lieutenant Colonel Maniac has activated a special clause of the Spartan Constitution that gives the senior officer complete executive control over the Federation in a state of factional emergency.

A sort of marshal law, if you will. (And they thought Sparta was under permanent marshal law as it was! Tee hee.) This in turn would be the cue to bring in the Maniac Doctrine.

[Googlie]

(3 thumbs up!!)

(Maybe even:

Lt. Colonel Maniac is insulted by your proposal and has passed it back to me to negotiate a better offer from you

[KrysiasKrusader]

We got a reponse from Mead.

Tell him to shove it. Or don't respond at all. Or tell him to shove it.

[Googlie]

I guess with the "time value of money" we could maybe accept:

• 10 per year for 15 year (our starting position)
• 15 per for 9 years
• 20 per year for 6 years
• 100 now

with the same 15 year embargo on 3rd party trades and a no-CDF restriction?

(one last kick at the can from the disgraced leader of the pro-Morgan wing)

[KrysiasKrusader]

Originally posted by Googlie

(one last kick at the can from the disgraced leader of the pro-Morgan wing)

Well 0okay.

But if they say no - or offer a counter prposal - tell them to shove it. Or don't respond at all.

[Googlie]

Hmm - interesting post in the Embassy by argenine. (and yoda has posted my e-mail re the "deep pact"

I see the Morganites want to take a run at the governorship as soon as they get the commlinks (reckoning the PTS - they built it last turn, apparently - will give them a huge pop boost)

That was a Kody trick last game. Hive got the PTS, and essentially disbanded every base thru colony pods, putting up fresh size 3 ones immediately (the last one disbanding founding the new base on the same site.

So they'll go thru a phase of building nothing but colony pods (new size 3 bases will build 3 colony pods to transmigrate into 3 new size-3 bases, and so on. growth is exoponential) ...................

but

.......................... during that phase they are extremely vulnerable, as their military infrastructure can't keep up with their population and base growth

[Kassiopeia]

.......................... during that phase they are extremely vulnerable, as their military infrastructure can't keep up with their population and base growth

1. Let Morganites start a massive rebuilding of their faction.
2. Inform the other human factions of this and strike a temporary pact with them.
3. Crush Morgan before he becomes a problem?

[KrysiasKrusader]

Originally posted by Kassiopeia
1. Let Morganites start a massive rebuilding of their faction.
2. Inform the other human factions of this and strike a temporary pact with them.
3. Crush Morgan before he becomes a problem?

Not feasible.
We don't have the ability to launch an invasion of an AI faction. Let alone a human controlled one. Distance to target, time to gear up, production capability is insufficient (other reasons too, but these will suffice). Nor will it be in time. It's still the early game.

We have to establish out own core group of bases. Build a solid foundation from which to be able to launch from.

I don't see us really starting to be a "real" threat internationally, untill we have missile infantry, and probably, drop capability.

[Maniac]

Originally posted by KrysiasKrusader
Not feasible.
We don't have the ability to launch an invasion of an AI faction.

Are you saying building a cruiser transport and filling that and the already existing transport foil with a couple elite impact units won't suffice to roll over Zak?


Btw, if it's likely that the Morganites will become planetary governor, how about we try to sign a pact with them after all (until we decide to invade them)? He'll have infiltration data on us anyway, so what to we have to lose?

[Googlie]

YEAH ................ Googlie gets re-instated to Lieutenant

[Maniac]

Congratulations with your promotion to Lieutenant-Colonel!

[Googlie]

I think I need to log on as Rynn - she's got more seniority than Googlie (Captain vs Lieutenant!!)

[Googlie]

Morgan has the turn (or will have as soon as they download it)

Anything we want to say to them, get from them, sell/trade to them?

(and did anyony understand arginine's last paragraoh in his last post?

Posted in the Embassy by thereal_arginine
I should also point out that invasions always take longer than expected. The PTS will increase Morgan's might. Had your faction already taken action it would have gotten more than expected for little in return.

Interpretation?

had we invaded them recently we'd have met stiffer resistance than expected and got worthless bases wiped out?

Had we pacted with them we'd hasve had to give up little but reaped huge rewards?

I dunno

[Kassiopeia]

I think by "taken action" he means "invaded us". Because why else would he talk about invasions in the first sentence? It doesn't make sense otherwise. I hardly think the Morganites would have agreed to a pact that would have been very profitable to us but less so to them.

I should post a "what? you think we've been intent on invading you? we're shocked."