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  • #31
    So, are you for sending options 1) and 2)?
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    • #32
      Im for both!
      -- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
      -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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      • #33
        Hey!

        We could use the guarantee that we do not pop any pods as one of the things to exchange for IA!
        -- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
        -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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        • #34
          The Gaian Union is happy to cooperate with their brothers and sisters on our new home. The Treaty of Friendship we have signed demonstrates that we can both preserve Planet's native life and keep information free for all. Tragedy of Earth must not repeat ever again. We are also open to possible closer cooperation in future. Cooperation in fields of technology sounds interesting, and we would like to hear more. Infact, we are interested in secrets of Industrial Automation, which our scientist have not managed to unlock yet. Our Lordship of Progress is interested if you might be willing to trade this secrets with your Gaian brothers in exchange for compensation. We are ready to start negotiations on this trade if you are willing.

          High Council has acknowledged your request and ordered all our exploration forces to start withdrawal to the extraction point which has been organised. Rest assured, we do not intend to endanger your bases with native life. Lady Deirdre would also like to encourage you to seek ways to avoid disruption of native life, unless it is absolutely neccesary.

          We believe we will appoint ambassadar to you within next planetary cycle, until then communication shall resume via current channels. Lordship of Diplomacy is also interested if we should maintain the policy of sending messages to Executive Infotrader, or will Angels appoint ambassador to our Gaian Union as well.

          Lord Administrator Illuminatus


          You agree on sending this message then?
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          • #35
            Yes, it's good!

            just correct that "[" sign in the 2nd paragraph

            Oh, how fast you did it!
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            -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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            • #36
              I noticed it immediately . You must have seen it while I was editing the post. Oh, and detopped, this thread will see plenty of action in any case.
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              • #37
                Opening further starship Unity pods endangers our bases and non-military units in the field by exposing them to native planet life attacks. We have already noticed missing pod within our borders.


                I found this extremely funny for some reason.... well basically imagine an ambassador saying it.

                Well anyway, why rule out map exchange? It might be good for us...also, if our map can be further used as leverage for IA.
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                • #38
                  why rule out map exchange?
                  To ensure our security - if DA or any other faction has:
                  1.no infiltration
                  2.no map

                  They can't get a clue on what we're doing and how strong we really are (apart from powerchart)
                  -- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
                  -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                  • #39
                    Response from Angels on our proposal :
                    Lord Ouro,

                    To be frank, the offer by the Gaian Union for Industrial Automation is on the low side. Doesn't the Lord of Progress have blueprints for better suited technologies in exchange for what we put on the negotiation table? We wish to remind you that, after all, our offered technology will open the gateways of progress to the Gaian Faction and such give the power to spread your principals outwards to more backward parts of Planet.

                    Sincerely,
                    InfoTrader GeoModder
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                    • #40
                      I propose replying with something like this (seeing that Ouro mentioned he is out on weekends).

                      To be frank with you too, we may not be clear, but Lordship of Progress is nearing discovery of Industrial Automation and it's secrets will be completed soon. Our initial proposal of trade spore launcher was to provide Angels with a unit that can easily explore xenofungus, which would be a great advantage and speed extraction of our troops- but it seems that you may not see it that way. However, if Angels would have such sight to gift Industrial Automation to Gaian Union in next planetcycle, Gaian Union would be able to redirect all its efforts into a technology that would benefit mutually to both of us. Lorship of Progress is very interested in researching secrets of the Humane Genome next, and if Angels are willing to gift secrets of Industrial Automation to us, we will return the favour to our Angel friends by teaching them secrets of humane genome. Further more, our Lordship of Progress suggests a research pact, in which both of our respective research departments will try to coordinate their efforts for more efficient ways of progress on this barren world.


                      Any thoughts? Someone should check if we can research Biogenetics next. Also, italics is optional part of message.
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                      • #41
                        Hmmm... *BUMP* Angels are getting quite impatient.
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                        • #42
                          Seems okay to me. Send it.

                          Well except I seem to have forgot the password to our saves, again....
                          Arise ye starvelings from your slumbers; arise ye prisoners of want
                          The reason for revolt now thunders; and at last ends the age of "can't"
                          Away with all your superstitions -servile masses, arise, arise!
                          We'll change forthwith the old conditions And spurn the dust to win the prize

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                          • #43
                            Seems fine to me. I'd always avoid statements like "but it seems that you may not see it that way." though. No need to tell them we don't understand them.

                            Illuminatus, check the Zerokal thread, will ya?
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                            • #44
                              (note Generarl Tacticus has registered at Eventis and made 5 posts in hidden forum - it is possible that Drogue is testing diplo forums, or Spartans have met Morgans). I will rephrase the message and send it.
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                              • #45
                                My fellow diplomat(s),

                                It was with some anticipation that a response was awaited. Although not as forthcoming as we hoped, it shows progress.

                                Are we to assume that the Gaian Union has no techs to offer at this time for the exchange of Industrial Automation? You can easily check this by offering all your tech in the diplomatic screen to us and see if anything else then comlinks and worldmap shows up. This said just in case you were not aware of the feature.

                                Also, the Gaian Union appearantly prefers to have Biogenetics as soon as possible. How quickly does the Union wishes to own this tech?
                                We might be willing to offer Industrial Automation next time the opportunity comes, but a level 3 tech for a level 1 tech is rather disparitive. Is the Union imperative in changing to Biogenetics as first priority when we transfer Industrial Automation or can we ask you to research a higher level tech if possible?
                                Also, for another possible trade: would the Union be willing to trade a level 1 tech AND a unit of our choice for Industrial Automation?

                                The last would be most forthcoming I think, we have some substantial gain on our part while the Union gains two technologies within a few years.

                                And in response to another topic brought up: mutual beneficial research does sound as an excellent way to cooperate in the future.

                                Sincerely,
                                InfoTrader GeoModder
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