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  • Maybe it is better to "play being with stupid" for the time being? Morganities projected power by having for example too many secret projects and climbing in powergraph earlier too high also. They had for that reason a Spartan Raid. We might gather information, not reveal too much. Let us hide that we have infiltration on Yang too. The longer others think we do not have yet those needed for us infiltrations the better.
    ditto that.if we appear as weakest human faction and we are farthest away from sparta and thus hardest to attack,we should be the last faction standing if the spartans get to strong
    if you want to stop terrorism; stop participating in it

    ''Oh,Commissar,if we could put the potatoes in one pile,they would reach the foot of God''.But,replied the commissar,''This is the Soviet Union.There is no God''.''Thats all right'' said the worker,''There are no potatoes''

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    • Stelth and cunning will be the DAway of doing things it looks like.
      You have two choices in life; Explore and learn or Vegetate.
      There is a reason for everything.

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      • Gaian message - informal for now - from BinTravkin:
        Greetings IT Mart!
        (as eventis seems down again, I send this through pm)


        The Spartan destruction of Morgan capital has led Gaian Union to a final decision for making alignments with other factions.
        It seems that things should change and things should change now.

        This message is not an official proposal, rather an informing and questioning one and perhaps a prelude to further negotiations between Gaian Union and Data Angels.

        Gaian High council has put forth a project to engage in a PACT with Data Angel faction to try to catch up with rapid growth of both Spartan and Morganic factions.

        The grounds of such decision are:

        1.Gaian Union and Data Angels have been friendly to each other from the very first contact

        2.Gaian Union and Data Angels share almost the same ideals, main of them being freedom and peace.

        3.Gaian Union and Data Angels are both the weakest (human) factions on Chiron and really need some help from outside to grow faster.
        PACT would produce such help for both our factions in the terms of commerce and increased co-operation in all or almost all issues.


        The exact terms and conditions can be discussed later.

        With this message Gaian Union wanted to ask Data Angels if your faction is interested in this kind of relation.

        best regards,
        Lord binTravkin
        A lot to think of. We have to be careful in my oppinion not to form obvious political blocks against someone. At least until we have good defense and "Fast Reaction Forces"
        Mart
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        WPC SMAC(X) Democracy Game - Morganities aspire to dominate Planet

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        • We could agree to a Pact, but perhaps without giving it away to the other teams. Meaning not putting it in the diplobox?
          He who knows others is wise.
          He who knows himself is enlightened.
          -- Lao Tsu

          SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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          • We have treaty already, so it be no change. For increased trade income we have to put it into diplobox.
            Maybe let us find out somehow how Spartans and Morganities would feel about it. We got very strong invitation for Pact from Morganities. If we go for Pact with Gaians remaining in treaty with Morganities we will distance them from ourselves. If we go for Pact with Gaians and Morganities, Spartans will read this as a significant danger for them.

            It appears, that slowly times of being neutral come to an end. I am not sure, but if we stay neutral from now for too long, we can find ourselves suddenly opposed by all others.

            Then what political sides would probably form?

            Angels-Gaians
            Spartans
            Morganities

            Would then Spartans and Morganities join for short time to get rid of us and Gaians? Possibly. They might do it. Two stronger factions killing together two weaker it's a perfect match for them.

            Angels-Gaians-Morganities
            Spartans

            This one would be strange. Gaians can also feel different about Morganities.
            Mart
            Map creation contest
            WPC SMAC(X) Democracy Game - Morganities aspire to dominate Planet

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            • I see Morgan wanting to pact with us hoping to pull us into the conflict with Spartans so we would be on the Morgan side.

              We have no military so I would stay with the treaty and wait.
              You have two choices in life; Explore and learn or Vegetate.
              There is a reason for everything.

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              • I don't think anyone would be too surprised if we pacted with the Gaians. Spartan's know they us and gaians attempted to work together to speed tech discovery. So Spartans, I feel, would not find this alarming.

                Moving to Pact with Morgan, otoh, would signal, to them, a shift in our allegiences, leading to diplomatic problems. especially if they view, as their message said, that taking out PTS was a last resort because they couldn't hold it and needed to curtail Morgan growth.

                So I think a Pact with Gaians would be acceptable to Spartans. we might sell it to them in terms of our need to raise income. Also reassure Spartans that our deal re Intel Integ is still ongoing. Further from a Spartan perspective a DA - Gaian pact is not a real threat.
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                • On a G note I feel you are right
                  You have two choices in life; Explore and learn or Vegetate.
                  There is a reason for everything.

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                  • It may be a bit too late, but maybe we should inform Gaians, that we traded from Morganities High Energy Chemistry and we can transfer it to them, maybe as payment for Ecological Engineering. They might trade Impact technology then and not plasma.
                    Mart
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                    WPC SMAC(X) Democracy Game - Morganities aspire to dominate Planet

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                    • The turn is still not posted. You do it, Mart?

                      Btw, how about trading EnvEcon for our worldmap with the Peacekeepers?
                      He who knows others is wise.
                      He who knows himself is enlightened.
                      -- Lao Tsu

                      SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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                      • To Gaians:
                        To Gaian union:

                        We would like to inform you that we are presently in possesion of High Energy Chemistry technology and we can transfer this technology to you. Whether it would be as the payment for Ecological Engineering, we can decide upon that. In case you would like to trade a technology with Morgan Industries, please consider choosign their impact technology in that case.

                        Would plasma technology be of crucial importance to you at this stage of war with Human Hive?

                        Sincerely,
                        IT Mart
                        Re: EnvEco.
                        I checked, that we gonna get like 3 mor EC from the field. However this will also bring increased commerce level. And this may be worth it.
                        Also with energy restrictions lifted we may go for free market. That would probably kinda "skyrocket" our EC income
                        Mart
                        Map creation contest
                        WPC SMAC(X) Democracy Game - Morganities aspire to dominate Planet

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                        • Going to incorporate all the suggestions and post the turn shortly. I hope.

                          if I don't post in the next half hour then some else please do it because I have a airplane to catch later this morning and
                          then I 'm back on Monday.
                          On the ISDG 2012 team at the heart of CiviLIZation

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                          • Ok, Hercules. We will handle any contingency
                            Mart
                            Map creation contest
                            WPC SMAC(X) Democracy Game - Morganities aspire to dominate Planet

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                            • Just spoke to Lal again.

                              He offered Pact.

                              I am inclined to accept

                              quick views

                              No harm if nobody likes we can always change later

                              quick
                              On the ISDG 2012 team at the heart of CiviLIZation

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                              • Pact - yes - do it

                                Hercules - post mid save we will do the rest
                                Mart
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                                WPC SMAC(X) Democracy Game - Morganities aspire to dominate Planet

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