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  • I would expect the rover to enter the forest east from HG, and this is probably what we will see when opening 2162. My guess is that it will then attack HG base. So we might then probe both syth infantry and impact rover next turn. I will write more in Security Nexus. Describe the defense plan. I think we better probe both hive units before Yang has a chence for sneaky attack.
    Last edited by Mart; February 27, 2005, 01:39.
    Mart
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      • Morganic diplomacy:
        mart7x5

        It is a shame that you didn't have SFF.

        Now we do.

        We would like to trade that with you.

        In addition to tech trading we would still like to enter a Pact. We will place a Pact offer in the diplo box.


        Mead

        PS
        As I told Chaos Theory I was surprised that the Spartans woud commit atrocites by oblitirating Morgan Industries.

        With MCC and their fast (crusier) transports, their Elite amphibious rover teams are closer to everyone (the transports can cover 8 squares per turn, the rovers 3) this could end up being a very short game.
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        • Analysing the Spartan history makes me think they are playing the role of Spartans as far as posible.

          If Spartans dont want to take DA over then they would be lilling to a non-agression pact and if it is broken then the breaker automaticly looses.

          If they do not agree to this then I see us having to Pack with the other factions and hope that all of use can stop Spartan growth.
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          • Quite reasonable. Let us consider what we will gain and what we may loose proposing non-aggresion agreement to Spartans.

            The agreement will probably hold them off. If prepared appropriately, as long as we will stay within its limits we probably will stay safe.

            Losses - our relations with Spartans will probably cool down a bit. So far they were willing to go for quite far research agreements. Intelectual Integrity is a very good example. I would point, that they may be uncertain about its future still - after they attacked Morganities. They for sure consider possible retaliation if we refuse to transfer IntInt. I think that task force about which Mead informed is is for that purpose - to attack us if we withdraw from this deal. Anyway, I would not fail Spartans here - our credibility and possible future relations depend on it. I would keep them now informed exactly when they are going to get IntInt. Part of the agreement was to allow them build CDF. Let them do it. we will deal with it in other ways.
            Asking them for non-aggresion agreement would definitely make us more unfriendly.
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            • I don't see (yet) a reason to ask them for this. Agree they may be willing to take by force if we don't deliver our part of a deal, but we would do the same when that happens.

              As you say, keeping them informed will delay their eventual attention to us, and that is what we need: time to prepare for the endgame. Since we are the faction they have best dealings with I think they will wait to handle us untill last for they can't war 3 teams at once, how high their production may be.
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              • We should stay with agreements to keep up the DA reputation even if the initial outcome is not what we want.

                With so much being up in the air we may want to wait a turn to hopefully see which way the faction wind is blowing.
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                • This PM came in, appearantly as a response to my questions in their public report thread. It's more or less a confirmation that the Morgans have infiltrated the Spartans if they claim to be able to give us info for mutual defense. Interesting...

                  't Would certainly be interesting to see what info the Morgans would send us regarding that raid earlier on, and appearantly we don't need to accept a Pact for it.

                  Thoughts?

                  Geo

                  I saw you asking questions regarding the invasion.

                  Please let me know if you want the full intell brief with screenshots.

                  I sent you a Pact preapproved.

                  If you were to accept and enter into the Pact we would be able to give you complete and timely intell to aid our mutual defense.

                  Mead
                  Btw, I confirmed the reception of this PM and that we're discussing it, nothing more.
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                  • If a pact is not required then go for it.
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                    • No deal, this just came in (I specifically asked in my reply).

                      He does seem to think (or make us scared for) a Spartan attack on us.

                      I would be willing to share the complete intel picture only if we are in Pact. There is a lot to share.

                      Atrocities aside, I am impressed over how the Spartans carried out the attack.

                      I think you should want to get the info. Not only is it interesting (if we were not the victim I would say entertaining perhaps), but based upon their capabilities and temperment, it also is a good indication of what you may be facing from them yourself in about 3 turns.

                      I heard that someone said that they called themselves the most evil faction on planet. I don't know if they did. One thing that I can say for sure is that they are ruthless.

                      Mead
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                      • I think accepting a pact with the Morgans would get us into that war with the Spartans even quicker. But Mart is right, we need to get building some defence units and a command centre.
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                        • Please pay closer attention to this particular detail
                          ... indication of what you may be facing from them yourself in about 3 turns.
                          ....
                          Mead
                          Notice: 3 turns
                          Why this particular amount of game time? It is around we will have completed Intellectual Integrity. So?....
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                          • The Morgans can't know that, or they must have infiltrated us and know we have a tech deal with the Spartans.
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                            • I think they are just guessing journey length from the transport to us.
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                              • I just keep on thinking that they also have a transport on the east coast of the Hive... at least from that one we're sure it exists, and it has for sure a probe on board.
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