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  • No, I meant asking the moderators, not the Spartans.
    He who knows others is wise.
    He who knows himself is enlightened.
    -- Lao Tsu

    SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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    • I've just sent this to Mead:

      Members of the Corporation,

      The Foreign Ops Centre has reached a decision regarding your proposal for a Pact between our factions.

      It is the DataJacks' wish in general to stay neutral in the conflict between the Corporation and the Junta.

      However, we continue to be willing to trade commodities and technologies if agreements can be reached between our factions.
      But we'll continue to do this as well with the Spartans in case we can reach agreements with them.
      We can imagine that on possible technology exchanges a trade ban with other factions will be included, and we're willing to comply in this.

      Sincerely,
      IT GeoModder
      He who knows others is wise.
      He who knows himself is enlightened.
      -- Lao Tsu

      SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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      • And I received this from him:

        The Spartans have fielded needlejets!!

        The title says it all. We'll try to send you screenshots.

        More info to follow.

        Mead
        He who knows others is wise.
        He who knows himself is enlightened.
        -- Lao Tsu

        SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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        • Next thing, I am going to do about the game is update the Tech Intelligence. It is now like for 10 turns left.
          We then going to see what chances do we have for needles.
          Mart
          Map creation contest
          WPC SMAC(X) Democracy Game - Morganities aspire to dominate Planet

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          • I received this from Mead:

            Dear Data Angels and Gaians:

            As we informed you earlier, we are troubled to inform you that the Spartans have now fielded an air force. We can provide screenshoots of a B-6 Hardened Spartan Needlejet in flight.

            The Corporation has been presented with couple of choices. One, immediate capitualtion to the Spartans. We can either become the Spartan Pet, or allow the Spartan forces to enter and occupy our bases on by one. Or, two, death within 4 turns. Most, if not all of our members can join the victorious Spartan empire.

            That can happen.

            Instead of the above, we could continue to carry on the fight if we have the complete and total cooperation of the Gaians and DA. As I have been saying over the past few turns, perhaps, if we all enter into a three way Pact and coordinate our defensive and tech research we might be able to hold off the Spartan advance.

            Without complete and total cooperation we might as well go over to the Spartans. The game won't turn out any differently, but at least it will end a little sooner and we'll have a little more fun (maybe they'll let us drive/fly a few of the planes).

            Please let us know soon so we can make our decision.


            PS
            Even with all of us cooperating together it is questionable whether any of us will live, but at least we can try.
            If this is meant as an ultimatum, it is the weirdest one I ever readed.

            I see no reason to change our position. If the Morgans want to quit, then so be it.
            He who knows others is wise.
            He who knows himself is enlightened.
            -- Lao Tsu

            SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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            • I took the liberty of sending this to the Gaians:

              I suppose your faction has received it as well, since the header was directed to both of us.

              May I ask how the Gaian Council perceives this 'ultimatum'?

              To me it sounds that the Morgans want us to choose between them as allies in a forced 3-way pact, or as adversaries on the side of the Spartans.

              Regards,
              IT GeoModder
              He who knows others is wise.
              He who knows himself is enlightened.
              -- Lao Tsu

              SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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              • And the response is:

                We're evaluating their claims and trustworthiness. So far, their claims are suspicious, though not necessarily false. I've also seen no evidence of any sort of damage since they lost their capital, so there hasn't been any sustained war on Morganite soil. Thus, all their predictions are, at best, based on guesses regarding Spartan actions. I would be extremely annoyed (at the Morganites) if a seemlingly-healthy Morgan Industries capitulates to the Spartans without a fight.
                He who knows others is wise.
                He who knows himself is enlightened.
                -- Lao Tsu

                SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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                • Your faction is pacted with the Morgans at present, so you have more information to base your assumption on.

                  We received from the Spartans some energy -and mineral income numbers of the Morgans, which where between 150-200 in both cases. To me this sounds like they (the Morgans) have still the ability to recover from the loss of their capital.
                  I know, it's almost a white lie.
                  He who knows others is wise.
                  He who knows himself is enlightened.
                  -- Lao Tsu

                  SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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                  • Not necessary a lie. Imagine, they have like almost 200 EC per turn. They can build a lot of infrastructure fast. They now are making crawlers. Soon they will have more than us.

                    I had some thoughts regarding our defences. Soon an update in the Security Nexus.
                    Mart
                    Map creation contest
                    WPC SMAC(X) Democracy Game - Morganities aspire to dominate Planet

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                    • No, not that, it's just that I'm more or less implying we don't have the same info the Gaians have about the Morgans.
                      He who knows others is wise.
                      He who knows himself is enlightened.
                      -- Lao Tsu

                      SMAC(X) Marsscenario

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                      • It is ok I understand the logic.

                        The net result is: The Gaians also believe the Morgans are crying wolf a bit. Yes the Morgans can build fast but when we look it is still very threadbare.
                        On the ISDG 2012 team at the heart of CiviLIZation

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                        • Oh a by product of this I hope is that no-one knows who we have or who we have not infiltrated.
                          On the ISDG 2012 team at the heart of CiviLIZation

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                          • We have to get also infiltration on Peacekeepers. I tried that in a singleplayer game. In Smac that might be different, but in smax everytime one tries to enter a base of a Pacted faction, a question is if
                            - move
                            - perform action
                            If you take a closer look when taking to AI, there is separate info:
                            Status: Pact
                            Infiltration: Active (or inactive)
                            We can then get infiltration on Lal, this is for the case when PK try to break the Pact. We now know their probe teams positioning in bases. Someone could for example ask Lal to break it, and for good for them reason of removing from us possibility of using our special ability.

                            I can't wait for the next turn and result of our attempt to infiltrate Zakharov.
                            Mart
                            Map creation contest
                            WPC SMAC(X) Democracy Game - Morganities aspire to dominate Planet

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                            • And about infiltrating Gaians. It would be good to get Gaian territory map. Unless we get into Pact with them. I think we might do it soon. We should try to move it forward. Meanwhile I have prepared a list of technologies, which we can trade to Gaians. We have active Trade agreement with them, so we should inform them.

                              Superconductor
                              Environmental Economics
                              Optical Computers
                              Progenitor Psych
                              Field Modulation
                              Adaptive Economics

                              PK commlink

                              So quite an offer for Gaians. Could be also used for getting them into Pact.

                              And here comes some observation. We may be in Pact with Gaians, but as far as I found till now, we do not get their map automatically. I think for human players, each one has to specifically give that map to the other. Once we get the Pact, we can infiltrate them, just in case too.

                              So returning to technologies, I will prepare the message.
                              We also seem to loose Eventis forum...
                              Mart
                              Map creation contest
                              WPC SMAC(X) Democracy Game - Morganities aspire to dominate Planet

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                              • To Gaian Union,

                                The update of our research situation is in order. Recently we have acquired some new technologies, and as the analysis of our databanks indicates we may offer you the following technologies for trade:

                                Superconductor
                                Environmental Economics
                                Optical Computers
                                Progenitor Psych
                                Field Modulation
                                Adaptive Economics

                                PK commlink

                                Would you have anything to trade in exchange?

                                Sincerely,
                                IT Mart
                                So this goes regarding tech status. And just a message inquiring them about possible Pact.
                                To Gaian Union,
                                We would like to ask you about possibility of entering the Pact agreement with your faction. Some time ago we received a letter from you indicating that you seriously consider such possibility. We feel, that Pact between Gaian Union and Data Angels will be soon possible.
                                Would you be willing to enter such agreement?

                                IT Mart
                                And we can tell Spartans in this regard, that we are in Pact with Gaians for economic reasons. After all, they are not in war with Gaians. We can also explain to Morganities, that the difference between them and Gaians is that they (Gaians) are not in war with Spartans. If Morganities would agree on truce with Spartans, we would have the same situation as with Gaians, and we could enter Pact. Spartans would have to accept this. This would no longer be preferential.
                                How about also Pact with Spartans?
                                Mart
                                Map creation contest
                                WPC SMAC(X) Democracy Game - Morganities aspire to dominate Planet

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