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  • If you search for crucified canadian, you'll find links suggesting it was a propaganda hoax.

    One link from the Liddell Hart archives:
    LIDDELL: 15/2/15-16 Papers dated 1931-1969 on historical and literary interpretations of World War One, 1914-1967


    LIDDELL: 15/2/15 1931-1969

    Papers relating to methods and styles of writing World War One history, particularly influence of contemporary propaganda and misinformation; problems of evidence and conflicting accounts; generalisation and lack of accuracy...; examples of British anti-German propaganda and atrocity stories notably the 'mutilated nurse', the 'crucified Canadian' and the 'Committee for the increase of the population'; ...
    From Silent Battle: Canadian Prisoners of War in Germany, 1914-1919
    Canada's most famous prisoner of the First World War, writes Desmond Morton in Silent Battle, was the crucified soldier depicted in Derwent Wood's sculpture Canada's Golgotha. The bronze frieze was a great piece of showmanship, but when the tale of a Canadian soldier crucified on a barn door by his German captors was proven to be baseless, the work fell from favour and was eventually consigned to storage by the National Gallery.
    Still I'd hesitate surrendering to Canadians if I were a German in the Great War.
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    • Originally posted by Boco
      If you search for crucified canadian, you'll find links suggesting it was a propaganda hoax.

      One link from the Liddell Hart archives:

      From Silent Battle: Canadian Prisoners of War in Germany, 1914-1919

      Still I'd hesitate surrendering to Canadians if I were a German in the Great War.
      It doesn't matter whether it was true or not, if the Canadians believed it.
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      • Originally posted by Boco
        Still I'd hesitate surrendering to Canadians if I were a German in the Great War.
        ...or if you were in the SS in WW2: after the SS killed a number of Canadian POWs on D-Day, the Canadians almost never accepted the surrender of members of the SS (come to think of it, I don't think anybody took SS prisoners).
        Similarly, Australian infantrymen weren't inclined to take any Japanese POWs after the butchered bodies of Australian POWs were found on the Kokoda Trail.
        'Arguing with anonymous strangers on the internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be - or to be indistinguishable from - self-righteous sixteen year olds possessing infinite amounts of free time.'
        - Neal Stephenson, Cryptonomicon

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        • Okay, i knew about the "mutilated nurse" and just learnt of the "Crusified Canadian", but what in the hell was the "Comitee for the increase of the population"?

          Generally all such stories are bollocks. There is this story in Greece of the sergeant that wrapped himself with the Greek flag and jumped off the Acropolis when the Germans approached. Totally uncorfimed but sadly quite acceptable by the press and "self proclaimed patriots".

          As for the SS while i think it was only human(...) to offer no mercy to their men if captured, i can not ethically accept the execution of POWs from that Hitlerjungen division(was it the tenth?) that fought in Normandy. I've read in a magazine that British troops enraged by the tenacious defence those 16-17 year olds had offered took no prisoners.

          Mmmm....i wonder if the yanks were responsible for any atrocities during the war....
          "Military training has three purposes: 1)To save ourselves from becoming subjects to others, 2)to win for our own city a possition of leadership, exercised for the benefit of others and 3)to exercise the rule of a master over those who deserve to be treated as slaves."-Aristotle, The Politics, Book VII

          All those who want to die, follow me!
          Last words of Emperor Constantine XII Palaiologos, before charging the Turkish hordes, on the 29th of May 1453AD.

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          • Originally posted by Palaiologos
            Mmmm....i wonder if the yanks were responsible for any atrocities during the war....
            Of course they were. US Marines didn't take Japanese prisoners for the same reasons that the Australians didn't take them, and there were various incidents in Europe.

            However, when it comes to prisoner-killing, nothing has ever been more horrific then the Eastern Front of WW2. The Germans deliberatly killed over 3 million Soviet POWs and the Soviets returned the favour by killing about 2 million German POWs.
            'Arguing with anonymous strangers on the internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be - or to be indistinguishable from - self-righteous sixteen year olds possessing infinite amounts of free time.'
            - Neal Stephenson, Cryptonomicon

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            • When it comes to atrocities in war, no nation can say their hands are clean.

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              • Case i think that 2.000.000 German POWS executed sound awfully a lot for a front that cost the Germans 1.800.000 killed.

                I suppose you count in the ones that perished in Siberia later, but still the numbers just don't add up.

                Can you provide more info please?

                And as for the atrocities in war i suppose they are simply "part of the game".
                "Military training has three purposes: 1)To save ourselves from becoming subjects to others, 2)to win for our own city a possition of leadership, exercised for the benefit of others and 3)to exercise the rule of a master over those who deserve to be treated as slaves."-Aristotle, The Politics, Book VII

                All those who want to die, follow me!
                Last words of Emperor Constantine XII Palaiologos, before charging the Turkish hordes, on the 29th of May 1453AD.

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                • Umm, I'm a neophyte with the term, but does this last comment fall under the definition of 'troll'?

                  How's it going, Curt?
                  El Aurens v2 Beta!

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                  • Originally posted by GePap
                    Any F17's or Whippets in your inventory Fairline?
                    Here you go GePap:

                    EDIT: see below
                    Last edited by fairline; March 14, 2004, 04:19.
                    http://sleague.apolyton.net/index.ph...ory:Civ2_Units

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                    • Originally posted by Palaiologos
                      I suppose you count in the ones that perished in Siberia later, but still the numbers just don't add up.

                      Can you provide more info please?
                      From memory, I got the figure from Christopher Duffy's Red Storm on the Reich. It strikes me as being rather high as well, but it's certainly not completly unbelievable - a very large chunk of the German Army wasn't released until the late 1940s/early 1950s.
                      'Arguing with anonymous strangers on the internet is a sucker's game because they almost always turn out to be - or to be indistinguishable from - self-righteous sixteen year olds possessing infinite amounts of free time.'
                      - Neal Stephenson, Cryptonomicon

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                      • Just how fast was this speedster?
                        El Aurens v2 Beta!

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                        • Originally posted by Boco
                          Just how fast was this speedster?
                          Which speedster?

                          Pixel Obsession Syndrome (copyright BOCO) has taken hold. I had to change 6 of them on the Whippet:
                          Attached Files
                          http://sleague.apolyton.net/index.ph...ory:Civ2_Units

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                          • Fairline!
                            Nice Whippet!

                            OK, been working on that 3D stuff, but I am about to make the rules and apply some changes to the map...

                            The Fokker DVII looks the business and fits the unit look perfectly!

                            More to come!

                            Here's the units at the moment!
                            Attached Files
                            http://sleague.apolyton.net/index.php?title=Home
                            http://totalfear.blogspot.com/

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                            • Why two ANZAC troopers?
                              "Military training has three purposes: 1)To save ourselves from becoming subjects to others, 2)to win for our own city a possition of leadership, exercised for the benefit of others and 3)to exercise the rule of a master over those who deserve to be treated as slaves."-Aristotle, The Politics, Book VII

                              All those who want to die, follow me!
                              Last words of Emperor Constantine XII Palaiologos, before charging the Turkish hordes, on the 29th of May 1453AD.

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                              • Only one Oz-trooper, the other is a Canadian!
                                http://sleague.apolyton.net/index.php?title=Home
                                http://totalfear.blogspot.com/

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