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Originally posted by GoPostal
Sadly, Aussies contributed much more (several divisions) than the Irish (poor quality rebels, and 1 brigade to the British army)
There were 2 (?) all-Irish territorial divisions together with many regular battalions such as the Irish Guards who fought in other divisions, not to mention 'Pal's' battalions of Irish expatriots who were recruited into the London Irish and Liverpool Irish regiments. I think there were 300,000 - 400,000 Irishmen who served in the first War, most of whom were recruited prior to the Easter rising. There were a disproportionately high number of Anzac divisions as well, and I think the Australians suffered the worst per capita casualty rates of all Empire troops.
It did occur: Zeppelins and later Gothas bombed London.
I stand corrected.
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I've read in an Englishman's memoirs that Ausie troops didn't generally take prisoners. If the Germans so much as fired a shot before surrendering they would be given no mercy.
It seems a bit far fetched to me so i thought i'd better ask the experts.
"Military training has three purposes: 1)To save ourselves from becoming subjects to others, 2)to win for our own city a possition of leadership, exercised for the benefit of others and 3)to exercise the rule of a master over those who deserve to be treated as slaves."-Aristotle, The Politics, Book VII
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There were 2 (?) all-Irish territorial divisions together with many regular battalions such as the Irish Guards who fought in other divisions, not to mention 'Pal's' battalions of Irish expatriots who were recruited into the London Irish and Liverpool Irish regiments. I think there were 300,000 - 400,000 Irishmen who served in the first War, most of whom were recruited prior to the Easter rising. There were a disproportionately high number of Anzac divisions as well, and I think the Australians suffered the worst per capita casualty rates of all Empire troops.
Yes, there were a lot of troops from Ireland that fought in WW1. Again, I'm not sure of exact numbers, but I do know that John Redmond persuaded the majority of the Irish Volunteers (~100,000) to fight in the belief it would help Ireland acheive Home Rule more quickly. They became known as the National Volunteers, while the remainder (~2,000) who stayed kept the Irish Volunteers as their name. Almost all of the men that took part in the 1916 Rising were from the latter.
Incidentally, Ireland was the only part of the British Isles where conscription was never introduced during the war, as the government feared it would cause a revolution.
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Originally posted by rmsharpe
Considering also it isn't just WWI, it's the period after that as well. Personally, I'd have even more armored units in there since it isn't really a WWI scenario, right?
Yep!
It's a global war scenario that happens to begin in August 1914!
Originally posted by fairline
There were a disproportionately high number of Anzac divisions as well, and I think the Australians suffered the worst per capita casualty rates of all Empire troops.
Yep, I think only the French and Serbians(?) suffered higher per-capita casualty rates then the Australians.
It should be noted however that a reason for this is that Australian troops were proportionatly more likely to be infantrymen then members of the other armies were. The reason behind this is that Australian units generally used British supply and support services.
Originally posted by Palaiologos
I've read in an Englishman's memoirs that Ausie troops didn't generally take prisoners. If the Germans so much as fired a shot before surrendering they would be given no mercy.
Yeah, that's true. Remarkably, the Australian Official Histories describe in detail incidents where prisoners were killed in cold blood.
The scary thing is that the Canadians were worse: after a (false) rumor got spread that the Germans had crucified a Canadian POW, the Canadians almost never took prisoners.
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Originally posted by Case
The scary thing is that the Canadians were worse: after a (false) rumor got spread that the Germans had crucified a Canadian POW, the Canadians almost never took prisoners.
Im the last person to put faith in the veracity of claims made by TV documentaries, but by coincidence I watched a UK-History Channel programme on this very subject a couple of weeks ago. The Canadian Sergeant in question was identified by the researchers and enough 'eye-witness' accounts of the porported crucifiction (including a letter to the relatives of the poor bloke by the guy who found him) do seem to indicate there may have been a fair degree of truth in this story. It appears he was 'crucified' with bayonets against a barn door shortly after being captured. The programme indicated that the post-war investigation into his death may have been quashed in the interest of reconcilliation with the new democratic German government.
I remember quite well my grade 10 history teacher recounting the story of the young Canadian man alledgedly crucified by the Germans. By the way he told the story the class could tell he believed every word of it himself, as it seemed to turn his stomach just to tell it. Of course he wasn't there, neither was I. But like the TV documentary you refered to fairline there does seem to be a great deal of evidence that it did indeed occur.
I was going to post a link to a webiste that discusses the incident, however the site has a very graphic image of the crucification that I thought might upset some people.
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