Coming Soon – Kaiser!

[Case]

Originally posted by fairline
Yeah, the Pogues did a version of that song as well as the Dubliners. It's called 'and the band played waltzing matilda' BTW. I think it was written by a folk singer in the 1970's and isn't a WW1 song.

That's correct. The song is about Australian conscripts being sent to the Vietnam War. It has no connection whatsoever with WW1.

The reference to 'the band playing Walzing Matilda' as the conscripts board thier ship is meant to symbolise jingoism and nationalism (IMO )

[Palaiologos]

jingoism?

[Palaiologos]

Originally posted by Case
Didn't the Germans actually use more captured British tanks than tanks of their own designs?

Yes, at least during Kaiserlacht. It seemed that the General staff believed that infantry armed with the right weapons can face anything and as such never trusted the machines.

@Curt

A gameplay question: If tanks are to be used as a one shot weapon to create a ridge in enemy defences, how will Gas be used if not in the same way?

[Eivind IV]

Originally posted by Case


That's correct. The song is about Australian conscripts being sent to the Vietnam War. It has no connection whatsoever with WW1.

Listen to the text and you'll soon understand they sing about ww1.

"...Then in 1915, me country said son: It's time to stop rambling, there's work to be done. So they give me a tin hat and they gave me a gun, and they sent me away to the war..."

"...we sailed off for Gallipoli..."

"...How well I remember that terrible day, when our blood stained the sand and the water. And how in that hell they call Sula Bay, we were butchered like lambes at the slaughter..."

"...Johnny Turk he was ready, he primed himself well. He rained us with bullets, and he shored us with shell. And in 5 minutes flat we were all blown to hell, then he blew oss home to Australia..."




Sorry for the thread jack, but I just released the beta for 'La Belle Epoque', and would love to get some beta testers

http://apolyton.net/forums/showthrea...hreadid=109306

[Case]

Whoops I seem to have gotten it mixed up with an equally awful song called 'I was only 18'. I studied both songs in high school, and have spent the last 6 years supressing all memories of them

[fairline]

Originally posted by Palaiologos
jingoism?

You should know this, since you exhibit it at every opportunity - it's rabid nationalism and hatred of foreigners

[Palaiologos]

rabid?

[curtsibling]

Originally posted by fairline
Curt: I think the MkIV is a better choice for generic tank; the FT-17 was definitely second-generation, and it would be a little like using a Panther as a generic WW2 tank IMHO. If there is a free slot (!) you could perhaps use it as an upgrade to the MkIV, with twice the speed (or range if it's a missile unit).

I would still not give the Germans a tank if I were you. The A7V was a complete disaster - so much so that only about 20 were ever made. it's pitiful ground clearance and huge weight made it virtually immobile on the battlefield, and it's great height made it unstable (some even fell over ). Personally, I'd go with the idea of stormtroopers as the German equivalent to the Entente tanks - with perhaps a tech called 'infiltration tactics' or some-such as a preq.

BTW, I have already started a MkIV today, but got side-tracked when the footy came on the telly

Hi there, fairline!
I had two ideas, limited by unit space.
One was to have the generic MKIV as a 'disposable' attacker - to be upgraded to the FT17 for heavier action.

This weapon would be available to all...

On the other hand is specialised units - giving the MKIV to the Entente - and the STs to the Germans.
This would leave the way open for the Centrals to develop the massive Krupps gun, as a special trench breaker.

Option two is where I am heading, methinks - The ST could be a match for the tank,
but, like all troops - not very defendable against the iron monsters!

[curtsibling]

@Pericles - the gas and Tanks will be one shot weapons!

Giving the player the chance to choose what horrid war machine to use!

[Sarsstock]

Curt I frankly agree that the German Storm Trooper instead of the tank is the most historically acurate idea.

If only you were able to use Fairline's amazing Ft-17 tank, I think that was the desegnation. The scenario you've created Curt would be just perfect for its use, however I respect the fact that this scenario is about the men, not the machines. Who afterall did nearly all of the killing and nearly all of the dying.

[Palaiologos]

Originally posted by fairline
but got side-tracked when the footy came on the telly

porn?

[Palaiologos]

I too agree on the "Stormtruppen instead of tank" idea,btw.

[Eivind IV]

Originally posted by Palaiologos

porn?

[Boco]

They actually showed Arsenal slaughter another team (Blackpool?) on US cable tv. No ManU jerseys in sight - AFAIK, that's kinda rare over here.

Btw Curt, did they really play footy in stadia to placate the masses during WWI?

[curtsibling]

The stadium was a hold over from Dictator3 - and has been changed, along with many other items.