Bueno cómo se me ha acusado por ahí
de que no gano carreras espaciales posteo este post -en inglés- que posteé cuando era novatillo en deidad para ayudar a los recién llegados a este nivel y que buscan una victoria tipo builder (lo que no quita que hayan habido guerras entre medio) (no voy a traducirlo, sorry):
Huge pangaea (*) Deity C3C SS victory.
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For Deity newbies ONLY:
This is was my first attempt on a huge pangaea map with 8 other random civs on Deity C3C spanish V.1.22. SS victory was the goal. Played with the Iroquois (nice UU for warmongering and Commercial trait is huge at upper levels to reduce corruption= 25% up optimum amount of cities. And of course being Agricultural is just unpayable in C3C)
I had already won many deity games on archipiélago maps with the Dutch and it was about time I tried a huge pangaea.
Basically what I did was find a good location. On the third map attempt I came after a river and two cows, just perfect for Salamanca.
1. I built the GL without any need for a prebuild at max research. Completely out-REXed by then. 5 AI in my continent and 3 on another continent.
2. Once built, I put research slide to zero and after attaining Republic I rushed libraries. On the meanwhile I stashed all my gold. My banker loves me.
3. Once I had learned Education (bye bye GL) I trigered my Golden Age immediately that same turn with my UU MW against the Russians. I used all the extra shields to build universities and then banks. On the meantime the 30 MW's I had Liberated the oppressed Russians and had them join my thriving empire, with two luxuries added (3 dyes and one incense)
4. Put my research to a maximum, earning as little as 17 gold per turn or actually losing money. I had quite a fair deal of cash saved so I could afford to lose money every turn. I became the techleader. I prebuilt Adam Smiths. More gold, meant faster research.
5. I researched techs that I knew the AI would not go for, you know, the typical ToE--Hoover gambit.
6. I sold them to the AI that very same turn and was raking in from some of the most powerful civs 223 gpt. Obviously I increased my research slab to the max possible yet again.
7. Killed off the pesky Spaniards and took their coal and my first source of rubber. They had one elephant luxury.Their land was liberated.
8. Didn't trade Electronics until I was certain I was only 8 turns away of Hoover Dam. I had done a prebuild on it with palace in the city I had my FP.
9. Tried to liberate the Ottomans à la Moonsinger with 80 artillery. Errm, that didn't go very well. I only took 4 cities but incorporated 3 gems (the fourth was left in their land) and second source of rubber which I left unhooked which I traded with the help of new techs for other luxuries with Aztecs (spices), Vikings (silk) and Americans(wine) Japanese (furs). I had 8 luxuries finally. I guess I have to polish up my warmongering skills.
10. Entered the Modern Age and went peaceful. I kept signing RoP agreements since the very beginning with embassys except with those I planned to invade (Russians, Spanish and failed attempt on Ottomans).
11. I had no aluminium. Thre were only two alluminium on my continent and they were both very deep within Viking territory, the most powerful nation in my continent and would not trade it unless I threw some new tech at them. The Aztecs could also trade Alluminium.Traded my second oil to Japanese for 220 gpt and furs with their endless war against the Vikings (my strongest neighbours) which I of course fueled all the time. I had my first oil unhooked.
12. On the other huge continent the americans were getting beaten by the Aztecs and ....pink French ( ). Sent 5 settlers and 5 armies to settle right beside New York, because they had alluminium. Later on, I airlifted MI Aand three workers.
13. The French took over New York which had two wines AND most important of all, alluminium. I placed five settlers surrounding New York. I rushed libraries and then Universities in all five. French had a MPP with Aztecs and the Aztecs in turn had a MPP with the Vikings on my continent; so there was no way I was going to start a war with the French. Shame on me. I culturally bombarded NY and they were reduced to one tile, the city itself. I spied on them and they were building a library, 33 turns to go. They were never culturally assimilated by me, must've been the Guggenheim or the Metropolitan museums at work . That is incredible. Didn't fire a single shot and everyone is happy with me safe the Ottomans.
14. With the War Academy I was building prebuilds with Armies for SS parts.
15. Sent the SS on 1810 A.D.
Piece of cake. 41 hours and a half it took me.
Main point is that I did tech surf all the time and then cashed in on it:
1. Built GL: research to zero and stash gold for future research at a loss.
2. GL expired. Trigered my GA straight away that same turn in Republic. Built banks, universities and Adam Smith. Put research slab at a maximum, even at loss.
3. Tech bartering all the time with the other civs. Very few wars and only for luxuries and strategical resources. Researched techs derided by othr AI's civs. Raking in massive amounts of gold from AI civs. Waited 20 turns until cashflow was liberated to strike a new deal for another tech. Didn't trade If they had no gpt to offer or luxuries.
4. Fueled wars between AI civs (namely Japanese and Vikings to buy me time on my home continent). Hoover Dam.
5. Ended up with 70-80 cities and SS victory on 1810 A.D. Flawless reputation and polite attitude by almost everyone except the Ottomans, of course.
Not bad for first attempt on huge pangaea map on Deity. The point was to always surge ahead techwise and sell them the techs I discovered hampering their own research. Many good articles on this on the War Academy.
*= (EDIT: I've just checked over the weekend that is wasn't in fact pangaea but rather huge continents. No wonder I was puzzled why there were two huge continents and not one huge uniform landmass, sorry about that.)


Huge pangaea (*) Deity C3C SS victory.
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For Deity newbies ONLY:
This is was my first attempt on a huge pangaea map with 8 other random civs on Deity C3C spanish V.1.22. SS victory was the goal. Played with the Iroquois (nice UU for warmongering and Commercial trait is huge at upper levels to reduce corruption= 25% up optimum amount of cities. And of course being Agricultural is just unpayable in C3C)
I had already won many deity games on archipiélago maps with the Dutch and it was about time I tried a huge pangaea.
Basically what I did was find a good location. On the third map attempt I came after a river and two cows, just perfect for Salamanca.
1. I built the GL without any need for a prebuild at max research. Completely out-REXed by then. 5 AI in my continent and 3 on another continent.
2. Once built, I put research slide to zero and after attaining Republic I rushed libraries. On the meanwhile I stashed all my gold. My banker loves me.
3. Once I had learned Education (bye bye GL) I trigered my Golden Age immediately that same turn with my UU MW against the Russians. I used all the extra shields to build universities and then banks. On the meantime the 30 MW's I had Liberated the oppressed Russians and had them join my thriving empire, with two luxuries added (3 dyes and one incense)
4. Put my research to a maximum, earning as little as 17 gold per turn or actually losing money. I had quite a fair deal of cash saved so I could afford to lose money every turn. I became the techleader. I prebuilt Adam Smiths. More gold, meant faster research.
5. I researched techs that I knew the AI would not go for, you know, the typical ToE--Hoover gambit.
6. I sold them to the AI that very same turn and was raking in from some of the most powerful civs 223 gpt. Obviously I increased my research slab to the max possible yet again.
7. Killed off the pesky Spaniards and took their coal and my first source of rubber. They had one elephant luxury.Their land was liberated.
8. Didn't trade Electronics until I was certain I was only 8 turns away of Hoover Dam. I had done a prebuild on it with palace in the city I had my FP.
9. Tried to liberate the Ottomans à la Moonsinger with 80 artillery. Errm, that didn't go very well. I only took 4 cities but incorporated 3 gems (the fourth was left in their land) and second source of rubber which I left unhooked which I traded with the help of new techs for other luxuries with Aztecs (spices), Vikings (silk) and Americans(wine) Japanese (furs). I had 8 luxuries finally. I guess I have to polish up my warmongering skills.
10. Entered the Modern Age and went peaceful. I kept signing RoP agreements since the very beginning with embassys except with those I planned to invade (Russians, Spanish and failed attempt on Ottomans).
11. I had no aluminium. Thre were only two alluminium on my continent and they were both very deep within Viking territory, the most powerful nation in my continent and would not trade it unless I threw some new tech at them. The Aztecs could also trade Alluminium.Traded my second oil to Japanese for 220 gpt and furs with their endless war against the Vikings (my strongest neighbours) which I of course fueled all the time. I had my first oil unhooked.
12. On the other huge continent the americans were getting beaten by the Aztecs and ....pink French ( ). Sent 5 settlers and 5 armies to settle right beside New York, because they had alluminium. Later on, I airlifted MI Aand three workers.
13. The French took over New York which had two wines AND most important of all, alluminium. I placed five settlers surrounding New York. I rushed libraries and then Universities in all five. French had a MPP with Aztecs and the Aztecs in turn had a MPP with the Vikings on my continent; so there was no way I was going to start a war with the French. Shame on me. I culturally bombarded NY and they were reduced to one tile, the city itself. I spied on them and they were building a library, 33 turns to go. They were never culturally assimilated by me, must've been the Guggenheim or the Metropolitan museums at work . That is incredible. Didn't fire a single shot and everyone is happy with me safe the Ottomans.
14. With the War Academy I was building prebuilds with Armies for SS parts.
15. Sent the SS on 1810 A.D.
Piece of cake. 41 hours and a half it took me.
Main point is that I did tech surf all the time and then cashed in on it:
1. Built GL: research to zero and stash gold for future research at a loss.
2. GL expired. Trigered my GA straight away that same turn in Republic. Built banks, universities and Adam Smith. Put research slab at a maximum, even at loss.
3. Tech bartering all the time with the other civs. Very few wars and only for luxuries and strategical resources. Researched techs derided by othr AI's civs. Raking in massive amounts of gold from AI civs. Waited 20 turns until cashflow was liberated to strike a new deal for another tech. Didn't trade If they had no gpt to offer or luxuries.
4. Fueled wars between AI civs (namely Japanese and Vikings to buy me time on my home continent). Hoover Dam.
5. Ended up with 70-80 cities and SS victory on 1810 A.D. Flawless reputation and polite attitude by almost everyone except the Ottomans, of course.
Not bad for first attempt on huge pangaea map on Deity. The point was to always surge ahead techwise and sell them the techs I discovered hampering their own research. Many good articles on this on the War Academy.
*= (EDIT: I've just checked over the weekend that is wasn't in fact pangaea but rather huge continents. No wonder I was puzzled why there were two huge continents and not one huge uniform landmass, sorry about that.)
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