Teach me!

[Harovan]

Originally posted by snoopy369
SR, it might, but it's a lot, lot safer to put the DLL in a mod directory. Alexman could speak to this better I suspect ... but I'd worry about this being the cause.

It's quite possible it doesn't use the DLL for the checksum, but uses some part of the mod for some reason, anyway. I'd hope not, but ... ?

It really seems to have been the cause. I put Blakes DLL now in a subdirectory of the mod directory. Now I don't get that OOS message anymore, whenever I commit an action that invokes portions of the AI.

I don't have the faintest idea how to install Blakes DLL so I can use it as mod. I didn't find an option how to load it from where it is now.

[Blake]

The DLL is not checked as part of the checksum - only the results of the DLL are. If the DLL has no measurable effect on gameplay then it wont cause a checksum barf, once you reassign workforce, if it reassigns them in a measurably different way (ie resulting in different yields) it THEN cause a checksum barf.

Locked Modified Assets probably prevents this altogether, I imagine.

Moral: Don't have anything in your CustomAssets folder when playing MP.

[alexman]

Hmm, that's a pretty serious bug. CustomAssets should not be loaded in MP. I'll look into it when I get back.

Also, something does seem to cause a hang when you spend too much time entering the game. Not sure if it's Pitboss or Gamespy, but now that it caused me to lose so much ground in this game, I'll look into that as well.

[vondrack]

And while you are looking at the Pitboss code... how about checking the timer routines? This game is set to 24hr turns, but the turns are definitely notably longer than that (I'd say ~26 hrs).

[Harovan]

Yep, timing is weird too. When I got up 11am (its great to have vacation), CivStats showed something like 5:30pm as estimated end of turn, and now it's at 7:53pm. But as Alex mentioned, that might be Gamespy or even CivStats itself as well.

[Harovan]

On the DLL loading subject, do you use import libraries or LoadLibrary()? If you use import libs, you usually don't have a choice what's loaded, it's determined by the search order.

[Harovan]

New estimation 8:12pm. The turn time is definitely sliding.

[Gyathaar]

another thing that would not hurt would be enhancements to the pitboss interface so you can change the turntimer, game/victory options and so on
(I know I wrote a tool to allow people to do it, but it would be easier to have it built into pitboss.. specially changeing the turn timer as the game progress seems to be an often used functionality)

[snoopy369]

Also, i've had some trouble saving (as a PTBS admin) - when yoiu save to a game with the same name (say I save the 3000bc save near the start of the turn, then again save it halfway through with 4/7 players played) it doesn't act like it's saved after I choose "overwrite", and indeed it hasn't to my knowledge (loading the save loads the old save).

[Harovan]

I'm getting a message box (translated from my german version):

Warning!
Player 6 LoggingEnabled = 1.
Make sure that he hs trustworthy.
< OK >

What does that mean?

[vondrack]

The player in Slot 6 (not sure who he is) has logging enabled - his CIV is creating a text log of what's happening ingame for debugging purposes. I assume it's one of the session testers who has this on because of needing logs for reporting bugs (in other games).

You can use the log to cheat (as there is info in there you would not be able to find out otherwise/ingame). However, I hope nobody in this group would cheat...

[Wittlich]

FYI: The CivStats is currently down for this game, even though the game is still up and running...CivStats is just not updating.

Yes, I have received this type of warning whenever I am currently logged into a pitboss game and another player joins the game. I've always just clicked "ok" and basically ignored it.

[Beta]

I am back up and on line from a very warm Florida.

Many, many thanks to Witt for babysitting this game so capably while I was away. It's good to have friends like him.

And again - I show up as ToxoXI (Russians) in the game.

[Wittlich]

[Solver]

Server down...

I'm not sure if the logging message there was about me, but I do have logging enabled. That's due to XP2 testing.

Do you want me to try and remember to turn logging off when I am about to play a turn of this, or will you lot trust me not to cheat ?