The Dance of Civilizations [Diplo Game] [Organization Thread Pt1]

[Persia (DoC)]

I'm never going to trust anybody ever ever again.
*head explodes of paranoia overflow*

(I am honestly laughing really hard now!)

[Byzantium (DoC)]

The solution which people are suggesting (Ottoman by looking at previous turns agrees that there was no 'effective double move' i.e. nothing that has he seen he woudl have realised at attack was coming and responded) sounds good if it can work.

Another option as a fall back (which Russia might not like, but might) is to re-load (a pain yes) to the moment inca logged out in 1360 / the moment Russia logged in in 1360, and Russia then miss that turn. That would be completely in accordance with the rules - since if Russia hadn't moved in 1360 they wouldu be entitled to be first in 1365. By what Russia says it sounds like he wouldn't lose out by missing 1360. Of course the reload might mean the combat rolls are different and Russia might not like that, but of course Russia could then choose differently about the destruction of the city.

[Persia (DoC)]

I don't care about anything anymore. This is most probably Ozzy subbing for ottomans being attacked by Ozzy subbing for Russia while the Arabs (subbed by Ozzy) knew everything in advance. Russia told RP before that the turn timer should be extended, but did not know that RP was already killed by Ozzy, who's hosting this game.

It also was Ozzy who met with Jeroen and Toni, revealing the secret identity to Jeroen and Toni. Not knowing that both Jeroen and Toni were also impersonated by Ozzy. So then Ozzy told Ozzy and Ozzy who he really was, which is Arabia, Russia and Ottomania. Which leads me to the conclusion that Ozzy = Jeroen = Robert = Toni = Russia = Arabia = Ottomania.

Let's move on people, nothing to see here/

*runs away screaming in paranoia, not getting far because running in circles while singing some weird song in elvish*

[OzzyKP]

It would be nice of course to hear from the Ottomans.

[India (DoC)]

When I was about to declare war I've sent a msg to Robert to increase the timer. ofc I knew those civs were not his, but He may have subbed for them though..

[Robert]

So you think you know who I am?

[Robert]

Another option as a fall back (which Russia might not like, but might) is to re-load (a pain yes) to the moment inca logged out in 1360 / the moment Russia logged in in 1360, and Russia then miss that turn.

There's an autosave for every player's last login.
Unfortunately that means there's no 1360 autosave for Russia, because that one has been overwritten by the 1365 one.

That leaves us with the Inca login in 1360, which means that Inca has to reply 1360 and the other civs have to replay their 1365 turns.

If Russia indeed does not play 1360, then he can be first in 1365.
Good solution.

But if the Ottomans agree to continue as is, then that's ok as well.
So we wait for that.

[India (DoC)]

I belive so.. you might have a very good disguise, but simply there are not too many "places" to hide . I might be mistaken though.

[Orb (DoC)]

I don't think anything should be done until the Ottoman respond to what has happened. If it means we have to wait then so be it.

[Orb (DoC)]

I belive so.. you might have a very good disguise, but simply there are not too many "places" to hide . I might be mistaken though.

If it helps I can tell you that I'm not CS or am I????

[Byzantium (DoC)]

I for one would never pretend to be Dutch

[Korea (DoC)]

Korea, this is between Russia and the Ottomans, it's not a rule change, they are trying to find a decent solution with the least hassle for both parties. Let's not muddle their attempts at this by complaining about something that you are not involved in

We have a rule that spells out what can or cant be done.

A rule agreed on before game started.

So it does involve me..


Why dont we just remvoe all the rules agreed on at start and allow individuals to decide what to do.

I know i am not liked here but this is ridiculous.

[Russia (DoC)]

The way I understood the rules it is illegal to EXPLOIT the double move to get an unfair advantage. Which I did not do.
Playing 2 turns after eachother should not be illegal in any sense.

[Orb (DoC)]

Playing your turns back to back is not a problem if your not planing to go to war. From my understanding the problem occurred on the second turn when you declared war and moved in. If you would have waited for the Ottoman to play his turn first then we would not be having this talk but since you did not allow the Ottoman time to play befor you declared war what you did is considered a double move.

We also have clear cut rules about double moves which SHOULD be enforced.

[Egypt (DoC)]

We have a rule that spells out what can or cant be done.

A rule agreed on before game started.

So it does involve me..


Why dont we just remvoe all the rules agreed on at start and allow individuals to decide what to do.

I know i am not liked here but this is ridiculous.

I just thought we let them figure this out for themselves first, it's their war. Seemed like a good idea to refrain from joining in the discussion, which could make things overly complicated. If they manage to come to a gentleman's agreement, that would be the easiest solution, right?

This has nothing to do with you personally, so don't take it that way please, I have no dislike of you at all. I'm sorry if I agitated you, was not intended.