The Dance of Civilizations [Diplo Game] [Organization Thread Pt1]

[India (DoC)]

guys, too much ooc! and not enough ic !

Too much being revealed...

he

India.

It's good to cool down a bit, then we can think about where to go. As I have said I'm not in hurry to finish, I could find other goals, go to offensive and spread the Sha'Tao again.. if you would like.. if not I can continue with this speed and finish as soon as possible.

[India (DoC)]

I knew you have the marines somewhere but not about the rest... hard to admit, but I've started to send back the troops i got so there was less than twenty in the country. And I wanted to protect the rest of the cities from a marine assault/quick raze. If I really wanted to concentrate just on the holy city thats an other 20 defender in Taorisha.. but then my other cities would had been undefended.

Actually I expected your attack after upgrading your airships to be able to intercept my bombers.. on the other hand i was close to bring back the New Indian army which would had increase my strengt at home significally. ( I guess Persia would had been more happy if you wait a bit )

[Greece (DoC)]

guys, too much ooc! and not enough ic !

Too much being revealed...

he

India.

[Persia (DoC)]

I think you are being hypocrite Persia. ok for to have smaller nation must give city when you gain but bad when rome gives city with oil? Why not sell the oil?

No, it's never good.
I'm not a hypocrite, I have opposed it all the time.
As a matter of fact, I am supporting my enemy, India here. I'm not advocating my own benefit but the benefit of my enemy.

Maybe I deserve the title 'balance whiner of the decade' but certainly not the 'hypocrite of the day' award.

Congrats India!
I never expected England/Byzantium/Korea to beat your Shrine city, but I did expect myself to be able to slam a whole in your defence.

All may want to know that India and Persia were 5 seconds away from a deal in which India would give up half of New India to Persia.
But then at the last moment India said that he actually liked it to wage the war. Then I said that we should then have the war.

That's why India and Persia were online at the same time that long.
Then he saw how his armies won the battle against all odds
Having said that, it's amazing how India was able to get a very good defence that quickly in New India while also be able to defend his shrine.

I never would have been able to beat him in one turn, most probably in 2. But now I don't have a chance. (unless there are no reinforcements for India and my armies will not fail a shot, which is not going to happen now I know that the gods are with India )

Bottom line: I think india will win a SS victory, not a cultural victory. His 3rd city is too far way from 75000 points. But maybe I'm wrong

Congrats India!
You played AWESOME both strategically AND diplo-attitude wise. 3x 7 for you this month.

[Byzantium (DoC)]

St Jon - not sure how the attack is iniquitous. I agree and have said publicly many times that India deserves a massive win - I can assure you he will be getting 7s from me too. To be honest the moment he landed his massive army to attack Byzantium long ago, it was clear to me that he was completely way ahead. But whats the fun in simply giving up? I didn't try to organise and supply the largest ground continentsupport for an attack on India to deprive the person playing India (no idea who) of winning in game - I simply don't play that personally - the attack was about keeping drama in the game, and keeping India pushed - which he rather seems to have enjoyed (and was completey in character in story - I disagree with you Korea - my stories about india were clear from teh moment they attacked Byzantium. Remember all I needed to do was convert to Tao which I had in most of my cities. No loss to me at all. But Byzantium was arrogant and wasn't going to roll over like everyone else. Which set up a great cross continental power game. Well great until I lost it!) Indias attack on Byzantium was not sensible in-game terms, but really added to the game. I think that our attack back was equally great for the game. Others disagree - fair enough.

[Byzantium (DoC)]

Thanks India. I was kind of counting on that - that you would have thought the transports next to the shrine were empty rather than having been refilled. And hoped that might lead you to make a miscalculation which could have made all the difference. But no, even with those refilled boats, you were too strong.

Thanks for the data on the foreign units. Actually slightly more than I thought. And yes, they represent about half your current defenders in the shrine. If they weren't there (and you had made the same moves last turn, whcih I know is a big if) we would have captured it. Which is a good diplo-game result - the Tao shrine survives because of diplomacy (you getting other nations to help with your defence).

[India (DoC)]

Well, if it's truly over..(and you wont take he city with a last warrior or something )
I want to thank you too and to everyone involved, it was really great, something I'd wanted to see in diplogames. Tbh last turn I did not think you will be this close, Now I see you did some great coordination to empty those transports and refill them for amphibious assault (I even told my allies that no need to send more units because the transports I've counted cannot be enough. btw there were 19-20 foreign units defending me, they might well be what was needed)

[England (DoC)]

Jon not too hard to beat back enemies when you have better techs and the defenders advantage.

I do respect India's ability that is for sure! He is one tough nut to crack on that continent.

I give props to Byz for actually giving the green light on the holy city attack. Yes slim chances but we did risk it, result we lost our army.

It would have been much easier to call it off and stay put and do nothing, Still we wanted to try and do something.

Anyway i agree with India huge massacre...

[St Jon]

Don't be a baby here Raz!

I wanted you in the game, I said so from the start, even though you can be a PitA I still reckon you contribute far more than the majority, myself included!

I do believe this war against India is the most iniquitous I have ever witnessed in any game. They have outplayed the rest of the World from the start and deserve the win far more than any of the top 3 that oppose them. They have fought the most fantastic war against huge odds and yet not crumbled as would have been so easy.

I'm only a puny power in the game but I watch and read what happens around me. Some of it involves me and it is great fun but this kind of war really only serves to cause me to give 7's to India.

[Byzantium (DoC)]

Yes of the 96 units which landed onteh beaches, there are 26 left to attack. There are a further 30 on board ship including some but not many marines, but there remain 20 infantry and 18 machine guns in the shrine, so it just won't work. Relatively close. If there were 46 on the beach and 30 on ship we would have him (96-46 rather than 96-26 i.e. 28% less damage) but as it is - no chance.

I think that is end game. India gets mech infantry in a few turns. We are then clearly in a situation in which India can conquerer whatever it wants, or decides to wait out for the cultural victory.

(realise that sounds a bit off - other nations probably have great plans going forward - just my recognition that India can't now be resisted).

[India (DoC)]

Perhaps the Sha'Tao religion is true and Sha'Tao is protecting India

You bet!.. though sometimes God seems to have his attention elsewhere.. my "favorite" when I lost a critical spy mission at 90% chance of succes, ok thats not that unlikely, but it was soo important

I will write a story once the dust settled, just want to mention this turn is the greatest massacre of all.. both below the Holy city and at the New India's Capital.. hundreds of units involved...

[England (DoC)]

I just want to say one BIG thanks to Byz and Korea in joining in this biggest attack in a diplo game. Sadly the defender had an equal army size and the 1st turn.

India of course well done to you for preparing your defenses well.

We had to try!!

[Korea (DoC)]

just my .02 cents worth.


thisstopepd being a diplo game when the allaince blatantly told me that they only targeting the shrine city to stop the cultural victory so you can al lstop your bleating ,

depsite persias war in the coloniied and byxs expalantion of a revenge attack on india,

this is a war to stop someone winning ingame

i as the oppositon way of tao to indias tao am the only nation truly justified in a diplo style to attack his shrine city, but seems ozzy beleive i taken this game into un diplo

i realise i not wanted in this game by toni and ozy possibly others so this is my last game, i fed u pwith the personal attacks

lets get this over and down with..

[Inca (DoC)]

I think you are being hypocrite Persia. ok for to have smaller nation must give city when you gain but bad when rome gives city with oil? Why not sell the oil?

[Persia (DoC)]

I think more people should be as enlightened as India and I!

Persia is far more evil then you have ever be

(and it is suffering far worse battle results at good odds against India then ANY civ ever had in history! Perhaps the Sha'Tao religion is true and Sha'Tao is protecting India )