The Dance of Civilizations [Diplo Game] [Organization Thread Pt1]

[Greece (DoC)]

Guys, you know how it is for Korea DoC in RL.

Just let it go for a bit and I hope he'll be back.

Stay tuned... his contribution has been so phenomenal.

Please return Korea DoC.

[Inca (DoC)]

korea is still same? Not?

[Robert]

It was actually: DIYWALHFYF
(do it yourself with a little help from your father)

But it's fixed now, should be the final time *knock knock*

[Byzantium (DoC)]

I love the way that world wars stop because a nice guy in Holland is doing his DIY!

[Robert]

Game's up

[Egypt (DoC)]

and with this the game is over. \\

seeing i was right so long ago and nothing changed i have lost all interest in this game

this is my final post on this game

i was promised if i stayed in game that the outcome would be different, well it wasnt.

These statements, hahaha, man you are something else

[Robert]

sorry, working on my electricity again. I'll keep it down as long as it lasts, after that I'll use the last autosave and post a msg here

[India (DoC)]

The game is down, I'm not logged in as civstats suggests.

[Persia (DoC)]

We can let Greece decide if he wants to finish as Korea or as Greece and then ask Ozzy to end the game for the other nation.

It will most probably no take too long anyway.
I'm going to enjoy now that I'm going to reveal all my evil hastog plots.

Unfortunately for Hastog it didn't lead to victory though
It was still fun though

Best game ever, and I'm kinda glad that we lost. India deserves it.

[Byzantium (DoC)]

Re: Korea.

Well we all predicted an Indian in-game win a long time ago. But its been great trying to change that, and we nearly did, and it can still happen.

IF korea does feel that this should be an end to his involvement (and perhaps he needs a bit of cold turkey time since he had had rather extravegent visions of burning every Indian city to the ground) then we should look at the subbing arrangements.

I thought it was odd having one person playing korea in game for months (as well as their own nation) and another writing and voting as korea on here, but others seemed happy so fair enough. But IF Korea isn't going to play any more, shouldn't we give full control of Korea (i.e. writing on here etc.) to the person who has been taking their moves all these months - the Greek player - and find someone else for Greece? (Or you could do it the other way round).

[Byzantium (DoC)]

one more thing though: I think we can agree that it was close, so it could have gone an other way

Kind of you to say so. I think you are right that in the bigger strategic picture it was close, but on the day it was a decisive victory for you on those beaches! For now of course.

[OzzyKP]

and with this the game is over. \\

i predicted and indian ingame win many many months ago, in fact almost at atart of game, i also prdicted a close finsih between byz and persian in the voting game


seeing i was right so long ago and nothing changed i have lost all interest in this game

menander will continue to play turns as he has for a long time

this is my final post on this game

i was promised if i stayed in game that the outcome would be different, well it wasnt.

civ4 game mechanics mean it impossible almost to change

thanks for the game loved positng.

now it done to menander and toni

What a bad sport.

[India (DoC)]

one more thing though: I think we can agree that it was close, so it could have gone an other way.. few more units on your side, if you get more allies (even if not too advanced their units can be upgraded), more favored battle rolls in the final fight.. maybe if you wait a bit (for air units), maybe if you attack sooner (I was producing 2-3 tanks/turn+other units) maybe this was the best time. I don't know..but I did go to the extreme to have the maximum defense possible.. slaving, drafting in my cities (sushi helped a lot where they were present), spending lots of time calculating, simulating possible battle results, researching game mechanics etc.. I could had lost.. then it would had been the other way around (everyone would feel bad for me, except the evil ones )

[India (DoC)]

But even you have limited options when it comes to attacking someone that is why i disagreed when you said go on the offensive. That actually made me laugh for a sec.

Don't take it personal just stating to obvious fact...

I had a special plan in mind, not the time to discuss it. we can talk about game mechanichs, what could have been done differently some time after the game ends.

[Byzantium (DoC)]

Thanks for the info India.

Its the bombers which did it. I was hoping that given we had 20 machine guns in the stack not too many of your bombers would get through. And then the sheer number of tanks. Numbers in the end count!

To answer your question about the end. No General Bellisarius withdraw all allied forces when he had the chance. Only one unit of English artillery refused to leave the beaches. If was almost worth trying it. The 10 artillery which were left on the beach all had a couple of promotions to use, so would have been basically up to full strength with 2 city raider. They woudl have caused some carnage. But the 18 machine guns would have survived basically intact and while 5 would have gone down to marines easily enough the rest would have been hard to shift by infantry from boats, and there was still 10 wounded (some very badly) tanks in the city. We could have caused massive destruction but couldnt' have waded through the units to actually capture the city. And the way civ combat works when attacking strong units you can cause 90% damage to every unit in teh stack, but kill few, and in a few turns they have healed back to how they were. In game terms, there was no point in the suicide, though would have been fun.