Attention All Diplogamers!

[Robert]

The turn doesn't advance when I load this game.
Perhaps Ozzy already ended his turn while I didn't.

[OzzyKP]

I'll be sure not to end my turn at the end of tonight's session so I can get a good master save.

[deity]

ozzy's save seem closest to what I remember when I went OOS.

[The Capo]

Well, everyone was there on Friday (tonight), so there isn't much I can really say that you all don't already know.

I feel as if Kuno has fixed the problem, at least temporarily. We did have problems with the game (ie players couldn't move), so we may have to test this during the week. I am available on Tuesday night, around the same time the game starts until when it finishes, so if you want to test out the save we can.

There are a few issues we need to correct; the first one is whether or not it is worth it to us to continue using these beta patches, or whether or not we should try and revert back to 1.60 (maybe it will work), or even 1.52. It's hard to say, so we should discuss this issue in the coming week.

Speaking of the coming week; are we playing this coming Friday? I remember Ozzy mentioning he can't play, so are we skipping the session since he is going to be involved in the war? Are there others who can't play either? Can we plan an extra session to make up for this past session, and the upcoming one if we miss it?

We've got a lot to talk about here in the planning thread, so we should get this settled sooner rather than later.

Peace.

[deity]

Originally posted by The Capo
Well, everyone was there on Friday (tonight), so there isn't much I can really say that you all don't already know.

I feel as if Kuno has fixed the problem, at least temporarily. We did have problems with the game (ie players couldn't move), so we may have to test this during the week. I am available on Tuesday night, around the same time the game starts until when it finishes, so if you want to test out the save we can.

There are a few issues we need to correct; the first one is whether or not it is worth it to us to continue using these beta patches, or whether or not we should try and revert back to 1.60 (maybe it will work), or even 1.52. It's hard to say, so we should discuss this issue in the coming week.

Speaking of the coming week; are we playing this coming Friday? I remember Ozzy mentioning he can't play, so are we skipping the session since he is going to be involved in the war? Are there others who can't play either? Can we plan an extra session to make up for this past session, and the upcoming one if we miss it?

We've got a lot to talk about here in the planning thread, so we should get this settled sooner rather than later.

Peace.

Important points laid out here by Capo.

Firstly, I think I know the problem of the save and the solution. It's not the patch. The save used was saved after I'd gone OOS, so that must have corrupted it. Both Cybers and ozzy's save must have been made when I was OOS. The solution is to use the auto save for the end of the previous turn. Cyber posted it. We should test it as soon as a there's enough of us around. Keep your AIM on and look out for each other.

Secondly, I'm very available over the next 10 days as I'm on hols. Let's try and get a catch up session going.

FYI: Five of us played another diplo light game using 1.61 and everything was perfect.

[Robert]

The 5-player game was the best session ever 8)
I'll start AIM everytime I'm home during the evening.

[LzPrst]

I am a little curious as of to what our problems owe...

in the 5 player game, myself, cyber, dragon, deity and Nico managed to get in and play for hours without a glitch.

it seems that there are some players that have problems connecting to eachother in the HOTWV game. those being ozyy, Kuno, and myself. for some inexplicable reason our computers (connections) seem to dislike eachother.

now Kuno solved the problem by adjusting some connection settings if I am not mistaken, and that allowed us to get in. did ozzy change to his neighbours connection? or did he just get lucky with his regular one?

finally, there definately seems to be some problem with the save. as it is most likely an OOS syndrome we should try to load an earlier save and see if it will work. most likely I can participate in this whenever. holidays here too

[OzzyKP]

I wasn't on my neighbor's connection.

Last night the problems were between Kuno and me, and between Kuno and Lz. No problems between me and Lz (right?), so once Kuno fixed his thing it worked ok.

Also remember Deity has issues too when he isn't hosting.

But anyways, I'm available this weekend to test or play.

I leave Wednesday so lets please figure out if we are or aren't playing next week so I can arrange a sub.

[The Capo]

I think we would all prefer to play, considering the fact that we didn't get to this past weekend. However, I think everyone will understand if you aren't comfortable with a sub (because you are at war, and currently the diplomatic situation is very delicate). I would suggest someone like DeityDude, or Frank Johnson. But I'm sure you know some people, Moker would be a good sub too.

Again, if you didn't want to use a sub I think we'd all understand, and in that case I would suggest we think of a supplimentary session to make up for the two weeks we wouldn't be playing, one that would be able to fit you in somehow. Perhaps on Tuesday if anyone can do it, because that's the only day I am absolutely free. Other than that I'd have to take off work, and I would need early notice so I could cover my shift.

If this file is corrupted due to the OOS problem, then hopefully the next save will work. But again, THIS DOES NOT fix the connection issues; only the inability to move. The connection issues should have nothing to do with the patches, because it is clearly a problem between certain players, and not the entire game itself.

So generally we have three issues;

Getting a save that works.

Getting everyone's connections in order.

When we will resume.

Since we've narrowed it down to that, let's get to work.

[Robert]

The save I posted is from before the OOS.
It should be fine.

[deity]

Originally posted by OzzyKP
I wasn't on my neighbor's connection.

Last night the problems were between Kuno and me, and between Kuno and Lz. No problems between me and Lz (right?), so once Kuno fixed his thing it worked ok.

Also remember Deity has issues too when he isn't hosting.

But anyways, I'm available this weekend to test or play.

I leave Wednesday so lets please figure out if we are or aren't playing next week so I can arrange a sub.

Yeah, I only ever have issues when connecting to this group or elements within the group. All other groups are fine...

[deity]

Originally posted by The Capo

If this file is corrupted due to the OOS problem, then hopefully the next save will work. But again, THIS DOES NOT fix the connection issues; only the inability to move.

I reckon the inability to move is related to the OOS error saved in the latest save. This happened after we all connected successfully.

So the auto save I'm sure will be fine as long as we connect the way we did quite successfully on that last attempt (and Kuno hasn't screwed around with his router...)

[KunojiLym]

It's the router's fault!

But yeah, there should be no further problems with that, unless it changes my IP address AGAIN :P

[NicodaMax]

Kill the Router!

[The Capo]

Well Kuno, does this mean your problem is fixed and we can assume we'll have a good connection now?

I still think we should test this out this week, and nobody has commented on whether or not Ozzy should get a sub. I THINK the consensus was that enough people would be absent this week to warrant a skipped session, and I'm fine with that, but I'd rather know ahead of time so I can make arrangements.

So if Kuno's issues are resolved we have one of the "three issues" covered, and that just leaves...

When will we resume the game?

Does our save actually work?

Once these two things have occured we should be ready to go. I think now would be a good time for diplomacy and storyline development too in the story thread, so the game doesn't lose its excitment.

Also we should discuss the Diplogame workshop at ApolyCon, Ozzy is going to host a seminar, and I may help as it is scheduled to occur very close to where we live. So if anyone had any ideas, or suggestions I am sure that would be appreciated.

Peace.