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I would tend to believe that is intentional, for the reason you stated; a lot of complaints existed about the road graphics coming in too soon.
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It's not that the updated road graphics are showing up 'too soon' they aren't showing up at all, even in the modern era. I'm still pretty sure however, that the updated road graphics were disabled intentionally to avoid confusing roads and railroads.Comment
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In my game, my cavalry doesn't flank against catapults and trebuchets. Has anyone else seen this? I haven't started a "fresh" 3.17-game yet, but patched and still playing on an old 3.13 + Bhruic... (and tanks + colleteral = 0 her also)Comment
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Cav flanks cannon. HAs flank the other. Doesn't have anything to do with 3.17.Originally posted by MoonWolf
In my game, my cavalry doesn't flank against catapults and trebuchets. Has anyone else seen this? I haven't started a "fresh" 3.17-game yet, but patched and still playing on an old 3.13 + Bhruic... (and tanks + colleteral = 0 her also)
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Originally posted by Virulent
It's not that the updated road graphics are showing up 'too soon' they aren't showing up at all, even in the modern era. I'm still pretty sure however, that the updated road graphics were disabled intentionally to avoid confusing roads and railroads.
I was one of those who had trouble telling them apart without zooming in.
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Except in 3.17 Cav is supposed to flank cannons, catapults and trebuchets.Originally posted by wodan11
Cav flanks cannon. HAs flank the other. Doesn't have anything to do with 3.17.
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In the MP game I was playing last night we had the same problem. It may be because it's a left over 3.13 save."They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." ~ Ben FranklinComment
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When you change xml files (which is how the flanking siege changes were done in v3.17), units which were created before the change keep their old characteristics. Units created after the change will reflect the changes made to the xml.Originally posted by clarkcd
Except in 3.17 Cav is supposed to flank cannons, catapults and trebuchets.
In the MP game I was playing last night we had the same problem. It may be because it's a left over 3.13 save.Comment
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That explains it, thanksOriginally posted by Jaybe
When you change xml files (which is how the flanking siege changes were done in v3.17), units which were created before the change keep their old characteristics. Units created after the change will reflect the changes made to the xml.
But what about upgrades? I would assume that create a new unit programming speaking?
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Is it already agreed who will do this new unofficial patch? You, or Bhruic, or someone else?Originally posted by Solver
I guess another unofficial patch is forthcoming
At least, the list of bugs and their significance seems to be considerably smaller than with 3.13, so I believe it should also be a considerably smaller job to do the patch this time...Comment
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Solver's already doing the patch and has released the first couple of versions already. Look for the thread.
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Using 3.17 with Solver's 0.19:
Privateers can no longer enter the terrain of opponents when you do not have open borders. An attempt to do so causes the "Do you want to declare war?" pop-up.
This is probably an error caused by the following bug-fix:
"Privateers cannot enter other teams' empty cities."I keep a record of all my civ games here.
aÅ¡tassi kammu naklu Å¡a Å¡umeri ṣullulu akkadû ana Å¡utēÅ¡uri aÅ¡ṭu
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Got a save?Solver, WePlayCiv Co-Administrator
Contact: solver-at-weplayciv-dot-com
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Please disregard. I have attempted to duplicate the error but have been unable to do so. Privateers seem to be working fine now. The mistake must have been mine.Originally posted by Solver
Got a save?
Originally posted by ayronis
Using 3.17 with Solver's 0.19:
Privateers can no longer enter the terrain of opponents when you do not have open borders. An attempt to do so causes the "Do you want to declare war?" pop-up.
This is probably an error caused by the following bug-fix:
"Privateers cannot enter other teams' empty cities."I keep a record of all my civ games here.
aÅ¡tassi kammu naklu Å¡a Å¡umeri ṣullulu akkadû ana Å¡utēÅ¡uri aÅ¡ṭu
"I am able to read texts so sophisticated that the Sumerian is obscure and the Akkadian hard to explain" (King Assurbanipal of Assyria 7th century BC)Comment
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Update:
There is a bug. If you try to move a privateer from your own city into an opponent's terrain then you get the "declare war?" pop-up.
See the attached save. If you attempt to move the Privateer located in Medina into Sitting Bull's terrain, you can reproduce the bug. For comparison, try moving a different privateer in and you will see that it works correctly.I keep a record of all my civ games here.
aÅ¡tassi kammu naklu Å¡a Å¡umeri ṣullulu akkadû ana Å¡utēÅ¡uri aÅ¡ṭu
"I am able to read texts so sophisticated that the Sumerian is obscure and the Akkadian hard to explain" (King Assurbanipal of Assyria 7th century BC)Comment
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Also:
I am easily spreading non-state religions within my own civilization even though I am using the Theocracy civic. I suspect that this is not intended and is probably a bug.I keep a record of all my civ games here.
aÅ¡tassi kammu naklu Å¡a Å¡umeri ṣullulu akkadû ana Å¡utēÅ¡uri aÅ¡ṭu
"I am able to read texts so sophisticated that the Sumerian is obscure and the Akkadian hard to explain" (King Assurbanipal of Assyria 7th century BC)Comment
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