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[MoonWolf]

In my current game, my Horse Archers don't do flanking damage. Even attacking a stack of only catapults didn't cause any damage to other catapults (yes, all of them but one was at full health). Have anyone else seen this? I might take it up in Solver's unofficial patch thread instead as I'm using his patch also.

[rjmatsleepers]

Originally posted by Dale
Just click on the name of your civ and they'll reappear.

It's a feature, not a bug.

So they do - thanks!

RJM

[Jaybe]

Originally posted by MoonWolf
In my current game, my Horse Archers don't do flanking damage. Even attacking a stack of only catapults didn't cause any damage to other catapults (yes, all of them but one was at full health). Have anyone else seen this? I might take it up in Solver's unofficial patch thread instead as I'm using his patch also.

Is it possible that you were attacking them while they were in a city?
Flanking damage never occurs when they are in a city.

Otherwise, it seems to happen occasionally. I haven't gotten a handle yet on what the conditions must be.

[MoonWolf]

Originally posted by Jaybe

Is it possible that you were attacking them while they were in a city?
Flanking damage never occurs when they are in a city.

Otherwise, it seems to happen occasionally. I haven't gotten a handle yet on what the conditions must be.

No, they were outside a city in enemy territory. Will probably leave that game anyway as the war is in a deadlock so will check what happens in the next game

[Saurus]

Originally posted by MoonWolf
In my current game, my Horse Archers don't do flanking damage. Even attacking a stack of only catapults didn't cause any damage to other catapults (yes, all of them but one was at full health). Have anyone else seen this? I might take it up in Solver's unofficial patch thread instead as I'm using his patch also.

I´m not exactly sure how this is supposed to work ... but so far my experience is that flaking does not always seem to occur when the unit beeing the direct target of the attack ia a siege weapon.

For instance if you attack an axeman with a horse archer and win or retreat, then catapults in that stack gets damaged.

If there is only catapults in a stack however, I have experienced that the other catapults are not receiving flanking damage.

[MoonWolf]

Originally posted by Saurus
I´m not exactly sure how this is supposed to work ... but so far my experience is that flaking does not always seem to occur when the unit beeing the direct target of the attack ia a siege weapon.

For instance if you attack an axeman with a horse archer and win or retreat, then catapults in that stack gets damaged.

If there is only catapults in a stack however, I have experienced that the other catapults are not receiving flanking damage.

I would assume it wasn't dependent wiether you attack a pure stack of catapults or not? Anyway, I am now on a new game at they don't do flanking damage here either....

[Blaupanzer]

Just a note: To do flanking damage the horse unit must win the fight. If the unit dies in the attack or retreats to survive, then no flanking damage. Sometimes folk forget the winning requirement, hitting a stack on a hill, retreating, then wondering where the flanking damage went. That damage comes after the defending unit is crushed and the horsemen break into the rear. Other than that is the horse units are specific to the type they will flank, although one of the patches addressed units backward.
HA - Cat
Knight - Cat & Treb
Cuir/Cav - Cannon.
The update let Cav/Cuir also flank Treb and Cat. If all this is known already or met as a condition, then you have a bug.

[joncnunn]

Other factors I've seen:
1. It seems to be a random number of such units. Probably implemented as a chance to attack each such unit. So if their aren't very many of them it may well be zero that time.

2. However, There is no max damage to flank damage so you can wipe out multiple units via it.

[MoonWolf]

All conditions are met. Unless noone else is experiencing the same thing, I might have to a reinstall the game

[rah]

Originally posted by Blaupanzer
HA - Cat
Knight - Cat & Treb
Cuir/Cav - Cannon.

I thought only CAV got flanking against Cannons.

[Grim Legacy]

Originally posted by Blaupanzer
Just a note: To do flanking damage the horse unit must win the fight. If the unit dies in the attack or retreats to survive, then no flanking damage.

Is this still the case with the latest official patch? I had a recent (BtS) game where my retreating Cavalry did flanking damage to underlying catapults/trebuchets.

[Blaupanzer]

Originally posted by Grim Legacy
Is this still the case with the latest official patch? I had a recent (BtS) game where my retreating Cavalry did flanking damage to underlying catapults/trebuchets.

I thought it was. However, I am not a coder or semi-staff member. As counter-evidence to my own contention, I had an HA die in the attack and still inflict damage on three cats in the stack he attacked.

[Jaybe]

Now, now, fellas. MOST of us know that if the mounted unit dies in the attack it won't inflict flanking damage, but if it survives it MAY inflict it; though flanking damage doesn't occur if the siege units are in a city.

[Garth Vader]

You don't get flanking damage if they are in a fort either.

[ecawilson]

Any chance that the 3.17 patch changed graphics code so that on my computer switching to global view would crash the game and my computer?

I switched to global view by using first the mouse wheel, then second time by using F11. Each time the view would zoom out until the main screen would be in the closest global view (the point where you start to see clouds), but would not switch the buttons in the lower right to the global view options (cultural view, strategy layer, etc.). It just stuck there. First time I had to shut down my computer. Second time I waited. I took a shower. I made lunch. I played with my son. I checked back, and the screen saver was on. I thought that that was a good sign, moved the mouse, and saw an error from my graphics card warning me that windows was going to ask me to send an error report, and I should say yes. I did so, and after some more walking around/waiting, Civ had shut down, leaving my computer in 640x480 and 4 bit (I had never even heard of 4 bit, but it looked like 16 color to me. I restarted the computer, and it acted like nothing had ever been wrong. So I started this post.

My graphics card is an ATI Mobility Radeon 9600 (yes, I use a laptop to play), my normal settings are 1024x768, 32 bit color. I have not changed graphics settings, nor made any updates, since the last time I used global view on 3.13 (about 2 or 3 days ago). Of course, there may have been automatic windows updates, but I have not been monitoring those. I use windows xp pro service pack 3. My game graphics settings are as follows: (I have not yet figured out how to attach screen shots to a post) Screen Resolution 1024x768, anti aliasing 2, the rest are set at high. The only three boxes that are checked are full screen, high detail terain, and show city radius. I realize that my graphics settings are very high, and my next step is to obviously lower them, but they didn't seem to be a problem in 3.13.

What other information might someone need to diagnose me? Or know for certain that it really is the patch?